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Offline Tansy

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When to start introducing finger foods?
« on: March 17, 2009, 11:06:29 am »
Just a call out to when other mums started introducing finger foods and BLW.

I was reading up on the BLW on this site but i have a few questions about it. My DS is nearly 8 mths and just loves his solids but at the moment i am pureeing or mashing all his foods. For breakfast he eats 4 Tablespoons of baby rice/porridge with fruit, for lunch he has about 3 Tbs of vegies followed by 2Tbs of fruit mixed with 2 Tbs of yoghurt (he loves yoghurt so much). At dinner he has about 3 Tbs of vegies with 2Tbs of meat (usually) followed by 3 Tbs or more of fruit or yoghurt. This of course is in addition to all his bfs.

If i was to start BLW wouldn't it be really hard to keep up such a good intake of solids. I have started offering him more lumpier food, like lumps of banana or avocado, which is fine if i feed him with my fingers or a spoon. Also i have on the odd occaision given him an asparagus spear to suck on. But when ive given him smaller cubes of food such as cooked pumpkin, he hasn't the coordination to pick it up and put it in his mouth with any success. this being the case, how are babies who are BLW able to get enough food in?

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Re: When to start introducing finger foods?
« Reply #1 on: March 17, 2009, 13:50:11 pm »
Hi there

I did BLW with Zander but can't remember much that far back (a whole 3 years!) but with Nathaniel I went for a bit of a combination approach.  We spoon fed him foods and gave him lots of finger foods alongside his 'meals'.  If he preferred to eat his meals with his hands then we let him (messy, but I think worthwhile to encourage exploration of food).  At Wesley's age, I think he was probably having porridge with fruit for breakfast, a meat or fish based lunch and a 'tea' of something like soup and bread or pasta and toast.  I always gave both my boys a handful of mixed frozen veg on their highchair tray to play with/eat alongside their meal and they loved the colours and it helps with their pincer grip. 

I don't think you need to stop what you're already doing and go for a pure BLW approach, just introduce a variety of finger foods alongside what you're already doing and see how he gets on - there are bound to be lots of ideas for finger foods on here somewhere.  I remember both mine had the most success with carbs to begin with; things like rice cakes and toast.

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Re: When to start introducing finger foods?
« Reply #2 on: March 17, 2009, 14:47:47 pm »
I started introducing finger foods around 6.5 months just after she'd gone through all the major fruits, veggies, and meats...  First finger foods were Baby mum mum (rice rusks), banana, toast, cooked steamed veggies like baby carrots.  Before DD developed her pincer grasp, I actually gave her long french-fry shaped cuts, so I sliced a banana in half, then in three long strips and gave her strips.  I also gave her toast in the same long shape.  Soon I gave her whole baby carrots (cooked of course), broccoli trees, long pieces of shredded cheese, pasta spirals... 

At first we did one chance for finger foods every day, then around 7-7.5 months we started doing one finger food option at every meal, and now at 8.5 months, we do about 50% purees, and 50% finger foods. 

It can seem a bit scary to put such a big piece of food on their plate (like a long strip of toast) versus cutting it up into small pieces, but as long as you are there to fish it out of their mouth if they stuff it all it at once, it's actually not too bad. 

Have you looked at this?
http://babywhispererforums.com/index.php?topic=95978.0

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Re: When to start introducing finger foods?
« Reply #3 on: March 17, 2009, 19:17:48 pm »
... how are babies who are BLW able to get enough food in?


Hi Tan,

From a purely BLW standpoint, it shouldn't matter how much food babies are eating as milk feeds (bm/formula) is their main source of nutrition.  Also BLW complements with the "nursing on cue" idea.  As babies developed the ability to feed themselves, then will slowly decrease the milk intake.  Like Kelly, I did a combo of BLW and spoonfeeding with both of mine.  DD was introduced to it at around 8 mos and ds at 6 mos.  DD didn't eat much and preferred milk whereas ds loves his solids and I was still nursing him 5-6 times until he weaned at 12 mos.

Give BLW a try, you may be surprised how quickly he picks up.  ;)
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Re: When to start introducing finger foods?
« Reply #4 on: March 18, 2009, 03:49:28 am »
Thanks for your replies. That has helped a lot. I think i will just try to add some finger foods for Wes to play with along with me spoonfeeding him. About the toast, when did you introduce it? Some books say not to introduce wheat before age one, however i do give him those baby rusks which contain wheat and he's fine with them. Also i have pureed pasta before and thats fine. I think i mght try giving him a whole piece to suck on.

Also, what do people feel about egg? I have read conflicting stuff about when to introduce it and whether to do the white and yolk seperately.
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Re: When to start introducing finger foods?
« Reply #5 on: March 18, 2009, 07:35:35 am »
Hi there

We did all those things from 6 months, but I have a feeling the guidelines in the UK are probably different?

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Re: When to start introducing finger foods?
« Reply #6 on: March 18, 2009, 13:37:46 pm »
My pediatrician said no egg whites before 12 months, the yolk is "ok" at 6 months, but he said better to wait until 8-9 months.  Whole wheat toast we started at 6 months after she'd done a round of wheat cereal with no reactions.  I just started dairy like yogurt and cottage cheese a few weeks ago...
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Re: When to start introducing finger foods?
« Reply #7 on: March 18, 2009, 23:53:05 pm »
Ok great. I think i will try wes with some pieces of toast. i also just started him on yoghurt a couple of weeks ago and he loves it!

Thanks everyone for your helpful hints :)



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Re: When to start introducing finger foods?
« Reply #8 on: March 20, 2009, 03:43:42 am »
re egg, sounds like it's different in different places. If you have a family history of food allergies you would need to take more consideration.

re finger foods.  I would suggest giving him something to 'play with' while he eats, toast or pear or some such. I've had really good experience with Leo eating these well.  I personally think the earlier you introduce the idea of self feeding the more it will be natural for him.

re getting enough. I know what you mean, it's easy to get a sense of how much when it's a jar or cube of something. I couldn't tell you how much Leo eats!  I just watch him for hungry (and full) signs and I tend to add on the calories later in the day, so a large chunk of cheese for lunch or dinner.

Leo just keeps eating until he turns his head when I offer him something. If I think it's something he doesn't like I offer him something I know he does eat just to see if he's full or just refusing that food. They adapt really quickly to eating without wasting much. He amazes me how often there is hardly any food on his lap, I check the floor etc. and realise he's actually eaten it all.  I usually give him small portions at a time, so one quarter of a pear until he has finished as I find that he seems overwhelmed and/or likely to play with his food if it's all on his high chair. So I hand it out. If I gave him a bowl of food it would be on the floor  ::)

We didn't have much of a choice with DS, he is an easy going baby but he refused to be spoon fed (in fact I can count on my hands the number of times he has taken food from a spoon from me!!).

So we started with pears, banana, rusks. I'm pretty easy going about what to offer him, no history of allergies to be concerned about, so we offered whole egg at probably 8-9 months (can't remember now!). For me, so many things I wanted to try with him had egg in them and I wanted to take advantage of his interest to really expand his foods. 

We have found while he loves bananas, they contribute big time to his bm's. Quite constipating, but now he is older I just give him smaller amounts and he's ok overall.

I have mostly offered foods with the skin on, so he's used to eating pear with the skin on (sometimes I cut off a bit so it's not too much), potatoes with skin. I watched him closely to see how he handled it, and he has done really well. I can see him manipulating the food in his mouth and if he has some skin in there sometimes he spits it, but mostly he chews it up.  Might be harder if bub is used to purees.

For a while now he eats long pieces of lamb chop and all sorts of things without a problem. He has really learned how to manipulate the food in his mouth. 
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Re: When to start introducing finger foods?
« Reply #9 on: March 20, 2009, 04:08:07 am »
Thanks Charmaine

About the egg: My MIL has an egg allergy so i guess when i do offer it to lo i should just watch him carefully for a reaction ???

Last night i steamed large chunks of carrot and pumpkin and gave them to Wes to play with. He's so funny though, he grabs them, puts them up to his mouth, then opens his hand up to mash it into his mouth but of course it usually just drops into his lap! He did manage to get some in though (along with a huge mess lol) and what was leftover i just broke up and fed him with my fingers. There was a little bit of choking when he was feeding himself but that's normal right?

And with the purees, ive been leaving them a little lumpier so he gets used to the lumps. Because i do all my own solid food the purees where never as good as shop bought so he's used to a few lumps anyway.

Tonight i am making a roast lamb, so i might try offering him a chunk of the meat and see how it goes. I am really looking forward to Wes eating the same meals as us - it will be so much easier.
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Re: When to start introducing finger foods?
« Reply #10 on: March 20, 2009, 04:44:41 am »
With the egg I'd definitely hold it off and also check with your nurse or doctor (a good one!) for their opinion. MIL is a close relative.
When you do offer give it to him early in the day, so that if there is a big reaction you can easily get medical help. I've done that with all the big things, usually start them on a Saturday morning when DH is around to look after DD.  A precaution really, but then I've been down the hospital with DD at 11pm and it's not a good time for a LO!

I *think* if they are going to have a reaction you'll know pretty quickly.

Last night i steamed large chunks of carrot and pumpkin and gave them to Wes to play with. He's so funny though, he grabs them, puts them up to his mouth, then opens his hand up to mash it into his mouth but of course it usually just drops into his lap! He did manage to get some in though (along with a huge mess lol) and what was leftover i just broke up and fed him with my fingers. There was a little bit of choking when he was feeding himself but that's normal right?

I remember Leo being pretty haphazard about getting food in his mouth! It was pretty rough. But it doesn't take long.

I think some kids are going to splutter and choke more than others. You can experiment with the size and shape of the food you give him.  I notice DS eats things like pears easiest when they are long thick slices (the size of orange segments). But a chunk is harder.

Half the battle is the LO's wanting to give it a go, so you are half way there!

I'm making a lamb roast tonight too!  Being nice to my DH, he's always going about roasts    ::)
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Re: When to start introducing finger foods?
« Reply #11 on: March 21, 2009, 18:10:17 pm »
Hi, Tansy.  I just wanted to jump in here because I too was wondering about introducing finger foods to my lo.  I'm just curious...how many teeth does your lo have?  Mine only has one so far.  I am a little nervous to give him finger foods because of that.  My oldest had at least 4 teeth by this age, so it was easier for him to chew.

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Re: When to start introducing finger foods?
« Reply #12 on: March 21, 2009, 18:52:49 pm »
I can share that my DD has only one tooth, a second still coming in, but she's been doing finger foods even before any teeth were in.  As long as the food is soft enough or breaks apart easily enough that they can "gum" it, it's ok.  We were doing toast (breaks down easily) at the end of the 6th month and banana too.  They don't actually use those first front bottom or top teeth to chew, they need side teeth and molars for chewing anyway.
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Re: When to start introducing finger foods?
« Reply #13 on: March 22, 2009, 04:06:09 am »
Wes has 2 teeth down the bottom, but i agree with pp. He usually mashes the food down on his gums at the side of his mouth. So i guess the food just has to be soft enough for that. I usually test the food by putting it between my fingers and applying a small amount of pressure. if it mashes or breaks easily, it should be suitable regardless of how many teeth they have.
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Re: When to start introducing finger foods?
« Reply #14 on: March 22, 2009, 18:18:15 pm »
Zander didn't get a tooth until he was almost one and had been eating finger foods for 6 months by that point!  I didn't restrict any foods from that point of view, didn't even need to be squishy things really - you'd be surprised how efficient their gums are.

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