15 month old with nap issues?

[speechie]

Yep, hang in there...
TBH, some days I did the nap just by the book and still only got 30 mins out of him, hugs honey, it will get better.
Glad you at least got a nice long night out of him.

[Evilmena]

Yes, this is true and also mostly like why he did the 30 min and the didn't sleep again when she tried at 4pm...oh well, he'll be in bed by 6pm and the last time I will have seen him will be Wednesday morning...oh well, I refuse to keep him up just to see him...that's how much of a sleep nazi I am!

[speechie]

Hugs- you are not a "sleep nazi"- you are trying to do the best you can for your child! Don't let anyone label you otherwise- and certainly remember that you will have a happier, better adjusted child for listening to his sleep cues-
I'd do the same in your shoes, and you can still creep into his room while he sleeps and gaze at him...

[Evilmena]

Cathie, thanks for the encouragement...I certainly need it...I honestly didn't think it would be this crazy!!

So he went to bed at 6:30pm last night...chatted for awhile before falling asleep and no wakeups.  Until 6:20am this morning...I thought he might go back to sleep but no dice so I got him out of bed around 7am.

I told mom to put him down at 11am so it may be a 2 nap day today unfortunately.  I was hoping to be able to just go to 1 nap but with him being up so early I figure he may need it - especially if he doesn't sleep long for that nap...we'll see I guess.  I'll update when I know.  What would you do?

[becky1969]

You guys are really really close to making it to 1 nap.  What happens if you push him out to 11:30 on a day like this? Is his nap short?  the decision depends on him -- if he just really can't make it 5 hours then go for the 2 naps like you plan.

hang in there girl! It's just a short ride from here to 1nap land! We alternated between 1 and 2 naps for a month I think! It felt very chaotic because I couldn't predict from day to day when/how long he napped! But then we finally were able to handle 1 nap and then wow.  No more unpredictableness.  Not only that, he was on the exact same routine for 6 months! We were used to chaning routines every month!  so it will be allllllllllll worth it.  Try not to make yourself too crazy.  Everyone with a child this age is going thru the EXACT same thing.  Some days your nap strategy will work, some days it will not work.    Just the nature of the beast! Your entire goal right now is just trying to get him this phase without being *too* OT by the end of it so that you don't have EWs, because EWs make moving to 1 nap nearly impossible.  You're doing a bang-up job of avoiding the EWs, so yay you!  Just hang on a *little* bit longer. 

[Evilmena]

Oh no, what happens after six months...they change to what?   

[becky1969]

hee hee.  you don't *really* want to know what they change to.  It ain't always pretty. 

[Evilmena]

It might help if I was prepared...??  lol

So, my pops was mistaken when I called close to 11am to tell him to stretch Jack to 11:30am...he was already asleep!  Mom said he was whining/crying, he didn't even want to be outside (now THAT's unheard of!) so she put him down at 10:45am...he slept for an hour.

She'll try to give him rest at 4pm but if he doesn't sleep like yesterday then she knows to put him to bed at 6pm.  I bet he didn't sleep much yesterday during the day due to his waking at almost 8:30am!!  Then again, that was to make up for the day before when he didn't sleep much during the day...ah the lovely cycles!

We forge on!   

[speechie]

Yep- the lovely cycles, up early odd naps, then up late, sleep in, one nap, then two...ugh. drove me nuts! For us, it took a full 3 mos of madness to adjust, and now it's lovely- hang in there and try not to worry! It will happen!!

[Evilmena]

Just so I can keep track:  2nd nap at 3:45pm - slept for 45 minutes, bed at 7:30pm.

We'll see how tomorrow goes!

[Evilmena]

So the weekend was alright, still only one nap per day at the most 1 hour...yesterday may have been 45 minutes...bedtime has been 6 or 6:30pm.  Yesterday he awoke at 7:50am so I put him down at 12:30pm and he slept for maybe 45 minutes...put him to bed at 6:30pm.  This morning he was awake at 5:50am...wouldn't fall back asleep.  So I'm saying today will be a 2 nap day...I don't want to increase the OT I think is starting to creep in...he's been having a few NW (again, if /when it happens it's only once a before 11pm, within 20 min. he's back asleep after soothing)...but still, they've increased as has his EW's...oy...should I be putting him to bed even earlier??  It's not consistent every day, it's like every other day.  I also hear him at 5am'ish every morning but usually he falls right back asleep...why can't this progress?

Since we started this we had one or two actualy days in the very beginning of the stretch where he slept for 2 hours at a nap...and we're going away in 3 weeks (not that I still won't be strict with sleep!) so I worry about things being affected....uggh.

[becky1969]

You know, on a day he wakes at 7:50, I might try a noon nap.  That's a little over 4 hours A time and if he sleeps 2 hours you get a 2 pm waking.  I think that's what I'd do for those late morning wakings.

This is a TOUGH phase, but look at it this way: every day his A time increases just a teeny bit.  In another week he'll be closer to handling the nec. A time for 1 nap.  IN 2 more weeks he'll be even closer, etc.  The 2-1 nap switch is awful.  Hence all the threads/support groups you see about it here! So you aren't alone.  The benefit is that after it's over you are done with nap changes! well, until the nap disappears.    I'm in denial about that change, though. 

[Evilmena]

Okay, so late wakings (I assume after 7:30am?) try noon nap...hey, can I just send him to you and you can return him fixed?   

[becky1969]

Only if I can send you my 3 yr old for a tune-up every now and then! 

[Evilmena]

Deal!!  Where are you located??