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taking Abbi to the docs to sort her tummy today
« on: April 06, 2009, 11:06:25 am »
Abbi is mpi, and has been milk free since 3 months old. She has never ever had a solid poo even milk and soy free. Dietician wasn't too concerned as she was growing ok and also was not in pain. Recently however, she Is in pain, she's going to the toilet more and more and its completely runny, and bits of indigested food in the poop too. She is also waking at night screaming and clutching her stomach and having a runny poo.this happens in the day too. Its happening more and more so have decided we must get it sorted once and for all. I have a feeling they will say to try wheat free. Am panicking at the cost as we struggle to feed ourselves normally due to dhs hours going down at work, and I know this kind of food is expensive! I am also getting a gi referral as really feel we need to find out why her bowels are so messed up tbh! I know they mentioned an ultrasound previously, and hate the idea of putting her through all these tests and stuff but it will be worth it right? Wish my baby didn't have a tummy like me, wish I didn't have to keep changing her clothes cause of the nasty poop she has. Anyone been here and what did the docs do? Thanks ladies, we go at 3pm x
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Re: taking Abbi to the docs to sort her tummy today
« Reply #1 on: April 06, 2009, 11:44:53 am »
Just sending some huge hugs to you and Abbi {{{{{}}}}} Hope they can help her. If they suggest wheat free, make sure they get you in with a kiddy dietician to ive you advice on what to give. They canprobably also help with inexpensive options. Hope it goes well!
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Re: taking Abbi to the docs to sort her tummy today
« Reply #2 on: April 06, 2009, 12:58:25 pm »
If they get you to try wheat free and it does improve Abbi' symptoms then ask your gp if you can get gluten free products on prescription. Our gp is happy to prescribe them for James although he did have a letter from the dietician to request this before I asked. I am sure a gp can prescibe gluten free products without the request from another professional though.

I wonder if Abbi could be coeliac, it might be worth investigating if a gluten free diet helps. It certainly would mean that Abbi would be ebtitled to gluten free food on prescription. It could of course be a wheat intollerance or it might not be related to wheat at all. It is so hard when you don't know what is causing the issues. My son has horrible bowel movements and stomach cramps if he eats wheat or oats but he is also IGE positive to these foods. James did have the blood test to test for coeliac but he had already been gluten free (due to eczema flares) for over 6 months. At the time we were not aware that James neded to have gluten in his diet and unfortunately the consultant who had James tested had not realised that the dietician had put James on a gluten free diet. At the moment we have decided not to do further tests as Jaames already has a severe food aversion and adding gluten back into his diet at the moment could make it worse.

I hope the gp gives Abbi the referals she needs to help get to the bottom of this as quickly as possibly.

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Re: taking Abbi to the docs to sort her tummy today
« Reply #3 on: April 06, 2009, 15:10:22 pm »
Thanks Vic, so sweet mwah! Thanks as always for your good info Kelly, your poor james, must have been such a rough ride! We went to the app and firstly, we are to do a stool sample to test for various things, and he's also given us something to relax her bowels, a medication, will come back later with the name of it x x hoping this can help a little to ease the cramps she gets. Once we have the stool results back we will go from there x
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« Reply #4 on: April 06, 2009, 15:48:19 pm »
Emma I don't have any experience but I just wanted to send Abbi a big  :-* I hope the meds give her some relief and fingers crossed you get a diagnosis soon so you can get her some relief

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« Reply #5 on: April 06, 2009, 16:13:25 pm »
{{hugs}} hun... for you & Abbi.  :-*  Hopefully these non-invasive tests will tell the docs exactly what they need to know so they can help her. 

You mentioned an u/s...  Please don't be worried about that.  Isaac has had several (for kidneys), and it's not traumatic or invasive for them at all.  The "worst" part is getting them to lie still, and at her age, she should be able to be cooperative.  It really is like us getting them when we're pg.  No anesthetic, sedative, anything.  :-*  Ask if you have any questions.  :)
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Re: taking Abbi to the docs to sort her tummy today
« Reply #6 on: April 06, 2009, 16:42:31 pm »
Yep, my DS has had a few ultrasounds as well. They even make sure to warm the gel before hand so it's not cold on lovely soft baby skin!  Abbi will be fine!  Fingers crossed all goes well.

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« Reply #7 on: April 06, 2009, 16:58:09 pm »
Aw thanks everyone you are so kind! Glad the ultrasound is just like what we would have, this isn't in the immediate future though as doctor also said to try a wheat free diet for a fortnight and see what happens so may start that next week after I have stocked up, wow the shopping budget is gonna be tight after getting it! X
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« Reply #8 on: April 06, 2009, 17:41:55 pm »
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Re: taking Abbi to the docs to sort her tummy today
« Reply #9 on: April 06, 2009, 19:19:19 pm »
It might be easier if you go for alternatives rather than a replacement for foods that contain wheat. We found that the gluten free pasta was not too badly priced depending on which brand we bought. Orgran seemed to be reasonable. The bread is really expensive and to be honest we have tried a few diferent ones and they all tasted terrible. We now don't even bother, James enjoys Mrs Crimbles corn crackers instead. They taste like very slightly salted popcorn. James has just started trying the corn pasta aswell and seems to like it but will not have it with a sauce but thats another story.

What kind of meals does Abbi normally eat? I may be able to give you some ideas that will not cost a fortune.

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Re: taking Abbi to the docs to sort her tummy today
« Reply #10 on: April 06, 2009, 19:30:29 pm »
Rice cakes are a good alternative too I think. I have done wheat free for myself as had an intolerance, and I agree the gluten free bread is not nice. Oat crackers are good too. I used to get rice noodles instead of spaghetti, and use more rice with food that I would normally use pasta. You can use cornflour in cooking instead of wheat, and there is planty of wheat free cereals too. It *can* get very expensive if you get the stuff that's glutenfree, but if it's just wheat and not totally gluten free she's trying then these other alternatives are a cheaper option. Was for me anyway.
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« Reply #11 on: April 07, 2009, 07:01:03 am »
Yes, and you may find that although the gluten-free food is expensive, the fact that you are cutting so many other things out of her diet balances out the cost, iykwim.  Yes, you may buy a packet of gluten free biscuits for instance, but she'll only have one now and again and that doesn't work out any more expensive than a pack of regular biscuits that she might eat more frequently.

We do Bob the Builder pasta here (mainly because DH gets groceries, I'm sure there are adult kinds....... ::) ) and I think he said the bag was 1.89 which IS quite expensive for pasta, but the shapes swell up quite big and if it's only Abbi eating it, then she won't need much. It's strictly rice flour and corn flour - labelled as dairy, egg, gluten and soy free.  Just from our regular Tesco.

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« Reply #12 on: April 07, 2009, 07:20:24 am »
James actually likes the bob the builder pasta I think it is the novelty of it though. The bags of adult pasta are slightly better value. Pasta is certainly something you can get on prescription though if Abbi has to remain wheat free. Now that James is eating pasta we are going to get that on presccription again. The orgran pasta is available on prescription which is a good quality brand.

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Re: taking Abbi to the docs to sort her tummy today
« Reply #13 on: April 09, 2009, 07:24:31 am »
Thanks ladies for all your ideas and help. Abbi went seven times yesterday, all sloppy and very mucousy. I had to bath her one time as it had run down her leg and gone all up her back somehow. Last night at ten o clock, she suddenly screamed her head off so high pitched. I ran up the stairs and she was doubled over screaming, and started saying tummy sore tummy sore and making me put my hand on it and stroke it. Took a little while to calm her down and felt so sorry for her! Her anti spasmodic prescription should be ready today so hopefully that will ease the cramps. Am going to go and buy some wheat free bits tomorrow, and go from there. If it is wheat causing the problem that's fine I will go back to the docs and see what I can get on prescription. Its such a shame, she's got a nasty rash on her bum again the poor baby! X
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« Reply #14 on: April 09, 2009, 08:08:39 am »
 :'( poor little babe, I hope the meds help her out  :-*

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« Reply #15 on: April 09, 2009, 11:26:15 am »
Aww, poor girl!  I hope things get better with the prescription!
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Re: taking Abbi to the docs to sort her tummy today
« Reply #16 on: April 09, 2009, 11:52:01 am »
Only just seen this!!! Poor little thing, and poor you too!  :'( :'( :'(

With J's sensitivities, I've gotten much much better at cooking food from scratch. Her breakfast this morning will be hot cereal: quinoa and barley. I soak it in the pot the night before, and then when I get up in the morning I just run on the burner and let it cook for an hour while I do my morning stuff (or DH could turn it on too, since he's up earlier). Hot brekkie, and I know every ingredient in it, and since we usually get the grains in bulk, they're not very expensive. Millet is another grain that's not expensive here, and totally gluten-free. Thankfully, J thinks that "porridge" is the best breakfast ever. :D

I think it's neat that you can get wheat-free on prescription over there; I don't think that's an option here in the States. :(

I'll be following along now!  :-* :-* :-* to both of you!

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Re: taking Abbi to the docs to sort her tummy today
« Reply #17 on: April 09, 2009, 15:03:06 pm »
Oh, Em!  So sorry to hear she had such pains.  :'(  Hope the meds work & the docs (& you!) can get her sorted soon. 
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« Reply #18 on: April 09, 2009, 15:27:20 pm »
Don't have much experience in the wheat dept, but wanted to send lots and lots of ((((hugs)))) to you and little Abbi.  I hope she gets some relief soon and you guys get an answer...
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Re: taking Abbi to the docs to sort her tummy today
« Reply #19 on: April 09, 2009, 15:51:31 pm »
Huge (but gentle) hugs to little Abbi from me and Lois {{{{{{HUGS}}}}}}
Hope the meds help for now and that you find an answer to stop this happening. Poor little princess!
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Re: taking Abbi to the docs to sort her tummy today
« Reply #20 on: April 09, 2009, 16:22:32 pm »
hugs to Abbi and you Emma. Hope medis make a big difference.
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« Reply #21 on: April 09, 2009, 16:26:15 pm »
I might be spekaing out of turn here and I don't know enough about thsi subject but ahve the doctors looked at crohn's disease.

A freind of mine just got diagnosed after a very painful time and being hospitalized a few times and her symptoms were quite similar. She was misdiagnosed eralier with allergies, wheat sensitivity as well as IBS!
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« Reply #22 on: April 09, 2009, 20:43:07 pm »
Ooh, Crohn's is a thought, although that's sometime mis-diagnosed as well. I know someone who has it and she manages it mostly with diet and I *think* maybe some meds as needed, although I haven't seen her recently so that might have changed.

Might be worth investigating.

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« Reply #23 on: April 09, 2009, 20:49:44 pm »
goodness, poor little thing- i hope the meds help.
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« Reply #24 on: April 09, 2009, 22:02:28 pm »
completely agree with Deb, my friend is also keeping it now under control with diet and a few meds.
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Re: taking Abbi to the docs to sort her tummy today
« Reply #25 on: April 09, 2009, 22:40:50 pm »
poor Abi!!! hope the medicine makes her feel better!
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« Reply #26 on: April 11, 2009, 16:21:19 pm »
Poor Abbi, I hope things improve soon. EGID is also a possibility for Abbi's symptoms. The hard thing is that there are quite a few different things it could be with the symptoms that Abbi has. It ranges from a wheat intolerance(or other food intollerance), coeliac disease, EGID and chrones. Of course there will probably be lots of other things that fit the same symptoms also.

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« Reply #27 on: April 11, 2009, 16:46:40 pm »
Thanks all! Going to do some research on the things you suggested! Thanks very much! X x
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« Reply #28 on: April 14, 2009, 02:38:57 am »
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« Reply #29 on: April 15, 2009, 06:31:53 am »
How is Abbi? I hope things have got a little better with her recent prescription.

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Re: taking Abbi to the docs to sort her tummy today
« Reply #30 on: April 15, 2009, 06:58:46 am »
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« Reply #31 on: April 15, 2009, 07:25:59 am »
hope the meds are helping Abbi, how is she?

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« Reply #32 on: April 15, 2009, 07:32:09 am »
She's not doing too bad thanks! In fact she seems to be having a good few days and haven't had to give her any medicine! Removing her morning weetabix has helped so much, she doesn't eat much bread any way. Gonna keep an eye x x thanks for asking x x
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« Reply #33 on: April 15, 2009, 07:35:03 am »
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Re: taking Abbi to the docs to sort her tummy today
« Reply #34 on: April 15, 2009, 08:02:09 am »
Oatibix (sp?) are a great alternative to those Weetabix! (((hugs))) and glad to hear that Abi's feeling a bit better.





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« Reply #35 on: April 15, 2009, 08:20:56 am »
Thanks guys! Great idea on the oatibix as she loves the texture of the weetabix thanks! X
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« Reply #36 on: April 15, 2009, 08:54:38 am »
Its worth a try my dd used to love them. James can't do them as he reacts to oats worse than wheat. I hope Abbi does well on them as they would be a great alternative.

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Re: taking Abbi to the docs to sort her tummy today
« Reply #37 on: April 15, 2009, 10:57:35 am »
Careful with the oats - I think they have gluten as well. J reacts to those! A shame, too because oatmeal pancakes are a cinch to make, but every time she's had them we've had a weepy whiny kid the rest of the day. :(

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« Reply #38 on: April 15, 2009, 18:01:48 pm »
Glad to hear things are going smoother!  :)
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Re: taking Abbi to the docs to sort her tummy today
« Reply #39 on: April 15, 2009, 20:07:18 pm »
Good thing for me to bear in mind re oats, thanks! Since no weetabix, the poo, apologies for tmi is like wallpaper paste, whereas before it was runny and mucousy and very indigested. Now its not full of indigested food! Yay! X
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Re: taking Abbi to the docs to sort her tummy today
« Reply #40 on: April 16, 2009, 07:39:15 am »
Thats good news, it definately sounds like an improvement. I hope it continues to go well.

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Re: taking Abbi to the docs to sort her tummy today
« Reply #41 on: April 17, 2009, 03:14:31 am »
glad itīs getting better




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