A time for 9 month old---HELP...I've got it all wrong!

[babyboy26]

I managed to get 40 min from him.  He was up at 5:05, so I opted for a 7:20 bedtime, keeping activity level pretty low.  He had a great night.  7:20 - 6:40 (11 hrs 20 min).  I'm thinking it's because I gave him a short A, since he had the short OT pm nap. 

I do have to say that at least yesterday I learned what his A should probably be.  I maybe would have had a good pm nap if I hadn't gone in the room and disturbed him!!!  Will go for another 3.5 hr A this morning.

[LucySol]

fingers crossed for today.i know what its like disturbing them you just cant help yourself you have to just pop in and check they are ok! i do it thru the night too! if i pop to the loo i always go in and check the children,even tho i know what a light sleeper dd is!
Glad you feel you are understanding his A times more, just when you have him sussed he will change all over again!

[~Alexa~]

YAy for the long night!!  So now we know your lo needs a short A before bedtime when his pm nap is short!

How did today go?

[babyboy26]

The morning nap went well.  1 hr 10 min nap on 3 hrs 35 min A.  The afternoon did not go well again...I put him down at 3 1/2 hrs.  He played for about 20 min, then started to whine, not crying, just whining.  Then, the crying started.  I went in and laid him down (he was sitting up), and he went to sleep right away, but only slept for 35 min.  This was on 4 hrs 10 min A, which I know was way too much!  Tried to extend, but it was not happening.  What I am thinking is that since he was playful when I put him down, maybe he needs a bit more A before the pm nap?  Do you think I should maybe try for 3 hrs 40 min or 3 hrs 45 min tomorrow?  He just played too much, I think, and then got himself OT.  It seems there is such a fine line between UT and OT...the trouble is finding exactly the right spot!

[~Alexa~]

hi Kara!! Yay for the long am nap, boo for the short pm nap!
I totally agree with you about having a longer A time before the pm nap.  It sounds like your lo was a bit UT when you put him down, but then he started to play and got OT.  So, try 3 hr 40 min after anything longer than 1 hr am nap. 
When this happens to me, I always give my lo 10 min for him to play in his crib and fall asleep.  If after 10 min he is still playing, then I go to him and lay him down.  This usually helps, b/c as soon as I lay him down, he goes to sleep. 

Let us know how your night goes!
Alexa

[babyboy26]

Thanks, Alexa!!
He went to sleep for the night at 7:10.  He was up from nap 2 at 4:10, so that may have been a bit too long of an A coming off of a short nap, but I was afraid to put him to bed any earlier!  It is now 8:40, and haven't heard a peep.  NW have never really been a problem, though...EW sometimes, but napping has always been our biggest issue!

I appreciate all of your help!
Kara

[~Alexa~]

Fingers crossed for tonight!! I hope you don't get an EW!!

[babyboy26]

7:10 - 6:30...yay!!!  Hopefully naps will go well today! 

*Update:  Nap 1:  9:55-11:00 (1 hr 5 min)...wasn't quite 3 1/2 hrs A, but he was practically falling asleep during
                           wd, so I just put him down.  He went to sleep immediately, so he must have been tired! 

Will try for 3 hrs 40 min A for Nap 2...I'm scared of OT!!!  I'll keep very close watch on him!

[~Alexa~]

WOW!! Those are great news Kara!! 

Let us know how your pm nap goes!

[babyboy26]

Ok...so totally confused now!

Was trying for 3hrs 40 min for the 2nd A...he did fall asleep at 3 hrs 40 min.  That was 2:40.  I peeped in at 15 min, and noticed that he didn't have his paci in...so I thought it might be a problem.  Sure enough, at 3:10 (30 min mark), I heard crying.  I laid him down with paci, and he stopped immediately, and was calm, with eyes open.  2 min. later, he was back asleep.  Since he woke at 30 min mark, was he OT, or was it just the paci issue maybe?

Since I brought that up, I would love to get rid of it.  He only gets it for sleep.  I was hoping to get naps all sorted before I attempted that, but it seems naps are a work in progress always.  What do you think?

I will post and let you know what time the pm nap ended.

*Update:  He slept until 3:50...that was 1 hr 10 min if you don't count the couple of minutes in the middle.

So now I'm wondering...what should bedtime be?  Yesterday bedtime was 3 hrs after pm nap, but the pm nap was only 35 min.  So, should I go with a 3.5 A before bed?

[~Alexa~]

yeap!! I think I would go 3.25 - 3.5 hrs before bedtime!! 

I think the paci may be part of the sleep issues!! IF you are brave enough, then get rid of it!! You can start a post on the Props board and you will get great help over there!! The moms there have lots of experience with paci addiction!!

[babyboy26]

Last night was 7:25 - 6:45.

Nap 1 today was 10:20 - 11:00 (Only 40 min on 3 hrs 35 min A...not sure why this happened)
 
I think OT b/c woke crying.  Had been doing 3 1/2 hrs A...yesterday was 3 hrs 25 min A.  Tried to extend, but no go after 10 min, so I just got him up and am hoping for a long pm nap...fingers crossed!

Am trying for a 3 hr A after that short am nap.

**OK...this is NOT FUN!  Put him down at 1:55.  Crib party began.  Went in at 2:05 to resettle.  Got drowsy as I was singing song.  Put him back down, and the crib party continued.  Went back at 2:15...same thing again!  Went back at 2:25...now 2:30 and still not sleeping!

[babyboy26]

**Update again...he fell asleep at 2:35, with no crying.  Fingers crossed!


...3:10 (35 min) the crying began!  He did settle back within about 2 min.  Wondering what I should do about bedtime?

[~Alexa~]

Did he go back to sleep in the pm nap? When did he wake up?

I think I would move bedtime 15 min earlier

[babyboy26]

Yes...the nap started at 2:35.  Woke at 3:10, was back asleep in 2 min.  Woke at 3:35, was back asleep in a couple of seconds.  It is now 4:05, and still asleep. 

Bedtime has not been consistent lately.  (It depends on when he wakes from pm nap and how long it was)  It is almost always between 7:05 and 7:30.

**He woke at 4:15.  That was a 1 hr 40 min nap, but woke twice during.  I'm reposting today's routine to see if anyone has suggestions on what the problem may be:

Wake:  6:45
Nap 1:  10:20 - 11:00 (3 hrs 35 min A.  Went to sleep with a cry and woke really crying, unable to settle)
           Was a little grumpy during first part of A, but cheered up
Nap 2:  2:35 - 4:15 (3 hrs 35 min A...tried for shorter A, but he was partying in the crib...had to resettle 3 times.  Woke twice
                             during nap, but was able to settle quickly)
           Woke crying, but happy & playing now.

Thanks to everyone!
Kara