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3 1/2yr old still waking through night
« on: May 04, 2009, 08:20:52 am »
My 3.5 yr old still wakes through the night.  She starts night in her bed then when she wakes, dad toilets her then puts her back to bed - sometimes with him, sometimes in her bed (she wakes more when in own bed).  This happens twice in the night.  She wakes up a few other times as well and dad snuggles with her (he sleeps in her room on the floor - I am in our room with baby - who is in own cot).  Does anyone have ideas/ suggestions for getting her sleeping through the night - or at least self settling when she wakes?
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Re: 3 1/2yr old still waking through night
« Reply #1 on: May 04, 2009, 13:28:41 pm »
How does she go to sleep at night?  What's her day like?
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Re: 3 1/2yr old still waking through night
« Reply #2 on: May 04, 2009, 13:37:10 pm »
Does she still nap?  Could this be taking away from her night time sleep?
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Re: 3 1/2yr old still waking through night
« Reply #3 on: May 04, 2009, 21:11:34 pm »
Does she fall asleep alone, or does she need to snuggle to fall asleep?
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Re: 3 1/2yr old still waking through night
« Reply #4 on: May 06, 2009, 07:50:32 am »
How do I describe her day?? Mainly we are at home, often go for a walk, plenty of outside play (loves being with chickens), some helping mum - make bread, cook, clean etc, plenty of independent play (she is great at doing her own thing when I put baby to bed or do w2s) - no tv or radio or computer.

After lunch Susan has a bottle and book with me then rest time.  Sometimes she sleeps (2 hrs) more often not now and she plays in her room.

Bed time routine is after dinner have a bottle of milk, then story (an interactive "wormy" story with dad), teeth, nappy and pjs dad says goodnight, then I do prayer and song say goodnight and leave (baby joins in if he's still up). Sometimes parts of the process are interupted as she helps or watches while baby has bath and changes.  Bed time we aim for 7pm, but if she doesn't sleep in day try earlier (6:30 - 7pm), if she does sleep in day more 7 - 8pm.  She falls asleep alone - almost immedidately if she hasn't slept, longer otherwise.  We are planning to stop getting milk and put herb tea in her bottle next week with the hopes that she will not want it anymore and then we'll give her a bath in the evening instead.

Although she still sleeps in the day sometimes, I don't think this is contributing, as she has always woken through the night many times.  The main difference is getting to sleep takes longer initially if she has a nap.
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Re: 3 1/2yr old still waking through night
« Reply #5 on: May 06, 2009, 08:19:40 am »
Just popping in to see what responses you get... we have a nearly 4 yr old who wakes once a night and I go to snuggle. I don't mind it, but she can sleep all night as she does when I give her 'the talk' before sleepovers at anyone else's house.....

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Re: 3 1/2yr old still waking through night
« Reply #6 on: May 06, 2009, 20:02:02 pm »
So, she's napping off and on, she falls asleep independently at bedtime, but when she wakes in the night she expects to snuggle w/dad to fall back to sleep? Do I have it right?
Also- she is still taking a bottle? Have you tried a regular cup/sippy/straw instead of a bottle? Does she wake for a bottle at night? or just a snuggle?
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Re: 3 1/2yr old still waking through night
« Reply #7 on: May 07, 2009, 01:07:32 am »
At night when she wakes its just for a snuggle - no bottle.  She so loves her bottle of milk which is why we have kept it going this long.  She is also not great at drinking through the day, (but will drink from a cup, or drink bottle when she's realy thirsty) so I thought it was a good way to get liquid into her.  I have considered weaning it in the past, but dad has never thought we needed to.  When our milk runs out (in a few days time) thats when we'll make the change.
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Re: 3 1/2yr old still waking through night
« Reply #8 on: May 07, 2009, 01:54:58 am »
If she falls asleep at night then I would suggest wi/wo or gradual removal for the nightwakings.  Do you know what her temperment is? 

http://babywhispererforums.com/index.php?topic=80750.0
http://babywhispererforums.com/index.php?topic=52284.0  (this is more for a toddler but it should be fairly close)

I know you said that her nap is not affecting her sleep but I *think* that it is related to the nightwakings.  When dd was in the middle of dropping her nap, she would have NWs if she had too much sleep during the day.  If she was awake for a short time (several minutes) then she would be able to put herself back to sleep.  However if she's awake for a long time then she would call out for us.  It's almost as if she needed the company, kwim?  Similar to me wanting dh to keep me company in the middle of the night.  ;) 

Anyway try to limit her nap.  Allow at least 4.5-5 hrs of A time before bed. 
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Re: 3 1/2yr old still waking through night
« Reply #9 on: May 07, 2009, 18:39:51 pm »
Yeah- if she's not waking for a bottle, and just needs company, I agree with Mimi- I have used both WI/WO and Grad. removal for different times with Nick with good success.
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Re: 3 1/2yr old still waking through night
« Reply #10 on: May 07, 2009, 18:59:46 pm »
i will listen in
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Re: 3 1/2yr old still waking through night
« Reply #11 on: May 08, 2009, 07:45:25 am »
Thanks for that, now its up to dh to make the changes when he is ready!!
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Re: 3 1/2yr old still waking through night
« Reply #12 on: May 08, 2009, 13:32:17 pm »
In that case, then let dd's NWs be dh's responsibility.  It really helps if he is on board and consistent. 

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