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Re: just can't get it right - part 3!
« Reply #240 on: June 04, 2009, 10:12:58 am »
Toni - there is so much pressure for everything to be average isn't there? Some babies will be bigger and some smaller - just like adults. Appetites will vary too. Our Health Visitors just have such a way of making us feel awful don't they? Last time I took J he was only eating like 2oz per feed of milk, and I got a lecture about how his diet needs to be more varied, and the importance of introducing meat and fish. It was just totally irrelevent - I mean if he isn't eating anything then how is he supposed to eat a fish? I worry that I have made J this way too and given him the food aversion. But J is bright and happy and Bella is too  :) :) and that is what matters. Yey for STTN!

I have an extremely unsettled baby boy today  :'(. He is teething, really moany, and just screamed inconsolably for 30 mins after waking 40 mins into his morning nap. I think he was just too uncomfortable to transition. He won't let me put him down.

I'm really worried about going away this weekend. I know J is going to really struggle with sleep deprivation whilst he is teething, and in someone elses house, with no blackout on the windows, no place to nap etc. Its going to be just awful. My DH is getting really cross with me about it all and has started muttering about me and J not going - but surely I can't do that just for a teething baby? Its OK for him - he will get a nice day out with him mates and I will be left holding an extremely OT baby.

We are staying at his Dad's and it is a complete HOLE. So dirty and awful. His mum left him a few months ago - it was bad then but I think it will be even worse now. Thing is his Dad hasn't seen J since he was born (drives past where we live weekly but NEVER drops in) and his brother has never seen him. It is always down to us to visit them. We live about 200 miles away - so 4 hrs drive. We have been busy with Jacob - and have invited them again and again - but they have never come. And now I have to take Jacob in this sort of mess and make him really unhappy.

I don't really know what to do.

Plus DH hasn't helped with the packing so it all still needs to be done - and J WILL not go down.

Alyssa - J's intake is well down too. I think it is the teeth so I'm going to do 4 bottles today to see if this improves things. He needs the fluid!!

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Re: just can't get it right - part 3!
« Reply #241 on: June 04, 2009, 11:09:29 am »
I don't know what to make of our EASY...Kirry said to start a new thread.  I thought H did super yesterday but our max is 11 hrs at night...now with a NW since we've tried going to 3 bottles. Woke yesterday between 6:30/6:45, nap 1 10:35-11:55, nap 2 3:30-4:30 (woke H) and was crashing during WD for bed and was almost asleep in my arms as I turned off his lights but was settled and asleep by 7:25. Woke 1:55 and when I put my hand on his back to settle cried even harder so I just fed him...took 4 oz and right back to sleep.  So, I think I need to add that feed back in the day.  I heard H awake by 6:20 but left in the crib until 6;50 when he was just getting loud.  NOw he's sitting on the counter whining and crying...all the while....DH still asleep upstairs! GRRRRRR...totally pretends not to hear H awake in the morning.  His excuse today "I have to work tonight!"  but, I guarantee if his brother called right now to go golfing, he'd have NO problem! 

Toni, lucky you for the STTN!  What was your routine yesterday???  I know Bella is a little older than H but maybe I can get an idea!?

Liz, sorry for J being moany and uncomfortable  :'( I hope if you go this weekend you will at least have a little fun.  :-*

Martina, thanks for posting those recipes!  I can't wait to look through them!


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Re: just can't get it right - part 3!
« Reply #242 on: June 04, 2009, 11:16:49 am »
Morning liz, I know what you mean about h visitors mine told me Isabella was fat, she had a few week when she hardly eat anything had to go to hospital with her and they syringe feed her 10ml every 10 mins....for 6 hours arrgh that was painful.

The HV said it wont harm her not eating she's fot enough fat on her to last a while.

MY dh isn't too good at packing infact he doesn't do it at all and would never leave him to do it because he would forget everything.

That would annoy me about his dad, passing by and not coming in, and taking him to the house if you know it's not clean would annoy me when i get there.

I would end up having a fall out with dh, but you have to go, sometimes a change of environment helps then sleep better.
You will just have to grin and bear it, you might see him again at xmas... lol

Regarding feeding how do you do it? in the same place bottle/cup? and when? we have 4 months of very little but it all changed when we changed where we fed her when and the formula?

Is there an alternative formula you could try?

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Re: just can't get it right - part 3!
« Reply #243 on: June 04, 2009, 11:19:39 am »
i'll be back in 30 mins just making bella lunch xx

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Re: just can't get it right - part 3!
« Reply #244 on: June 04, 2009, 12:02:19 pm »
Thanks Toni - I kind of end up walking to different places around the house to see if a change of scenery will help. Sometimes does, sometimes doesn't.

There is a major issue with the formula in that it is cows milk based and J is intolerant. But he will not take hypoallergenic as it is too bitter, and consultant doesn't want him on soy until he is 12 months. I have been wondering about trying just another brand though as he gets so constipated on this one. I'm using aptimal 1.

I've still done no packing as J has now thrown up all over the living room. Everything he has eaten in the last week by the looks of it  :-X :-X. Seems a little happier after but I doubt it will last long.

Alyssa - I don't know what is wrong with my EASY either. I don't know why he won't sleep at night but will in the day. I know he's teething but I think its the nap routine throwing the night. I started a post but no replies yet so I've carried on trying to wing it. I put J to bed after only 3 hrs A last night, and much the same issue.

Bust his am nap as well today.

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Re: just can't get it right - part 3!
« Reply #245 on: June 04, 2009, 12:13:45 pm »
Good morning!  What a busy morning!   :)

You know, I think you'd have to mess up pretty bad to be responsible for your baby being too overweight or underweight due to something you did, iykwim.  Babies will be who there are, you'd have to do something extreme to change that.  As long as you are offering a healthy diet and they are thriving, then they are how they are, and other people shouldn't tell us otherwise.  Obvisously we'll always look out for 'other' factors, but in reality, adults come in all different sizes, so why should babies all be expected to look the same?

Toni - hooray for STTN!  We're still far from that!

Liz - sorry about your dilemma with the wedding, but I agee that (unfortunately) you should go.  However, what a p***off about FIL!  You know, DH's dad is similar in a way.  He is a snob, and was an absentee father.  When DH became an adult, they sort of developed a relationship, and FIL thought everything was gravy.  But it's like he would only want to see us when it was convienent for them (him and his wife).  They mostly live at their cottage, so for all holidays they would expect us to drive there (2hrs or more depending on where we were), which was ok until we had the baby.  They would want us to stay over, but they'd invite all the rest of the family (like 10 other people staying over too), and I said no way because we'd have to sleep on a mattress on the floor in a noisy cottage with all these other people and a baby, so we would go but then have to drive home the same day.  Well, I would ALWAYS ask that dinner be early so we would be on the road early (especially in winter when it is dark early and roads are bad), and they would ALWAYS make it late, so I would get so angry.  Finally, we both had enough of his selfishness and I was so happy when DH decided it was better off if we never saw them again (there's more to this story, but that's enough for now).  He was a jerk anyway, a terrible father, a terrible person (always found him really creepy, and a creep!) and would be a terrible grandfather, and I just don't need people like that in Tristan's life.  I hope the weekend goes better than you expect, and you and J can make the most of it.  :)  

It's really frustrating when people don't understand the importance of routine and consistency with a baby, isn't?

Alyssa, I too have often thought about starting a new thread for my routine!  I feel like we're just such a mess, I just need to start over anew.  Well, I'll keep plugging away at it a little while longer, it's got to get better soon, right?   ::)  Sorry about the rough start, hope your day gets better soon!

The good and the bad of our night...ok the bad:  Tristan woke very upset at only 10:30, and it took about 15 mins and some motrin to get him back down.  He NEVER wakes that early, so I was a bit upset.  The rest of the night was fairly usual, woke at 3:00 and again at 5:20.  The good:  after feeding him at 5:20, he went back to sleep until 7:15!   :D  When I went in there he was standing and smiling.  :)

Here's my worry right now:  since he's been teething pretty much for months straight, I had been giving him meds before bed only for awhile now.  So last night is the first night I didn't as I'm worried I give them too much.  It's the only thing I did different and he woke at 10:30, he was acting like his teeth were bothering him.  And he went back to sleep easily once I gave him the meds.  So do you think I've created something of an addiction?  I mean, his teeth probably really are bugging him as the next one is just under the gums, but I thought about it and I only give them before bed, so by 3:30am when he wakes it would have worn off, and he never needs more to go back to sleep.  What do you think?  I'm all freaked out now.   :-\

Sorry about the long post, I should get on breakfast!  :)
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Re: just can't get it right - part 3!
« Reply #246 on: June 04, 2009, 12:26:54 pm »
liz- funny you say that about the ampital, we were on that and she was always being sick and consipated we changed to sma and it made a world of difference she liked it so drank more.

Alyssa/Liz-I think it is worth changing- put the links of your thread on here.

Martina- the worst thing is you can't pick your family and you have to live with it, I haven't spoken to my farther for 12 years... he remarried and slowly stop bothering with me and my younger brother, which bothered my brother more  then me because I knew what he was like nd what he did to my mum.. which was very bad.

I found out through the paper that i have a half brother who was born the same day as his grandson was born.. weird.

Just off to wind down my tired monkey and hopefully get a 1hr nap.

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Re: just can't get it right - part 3!
« Reply #247 on: June 04, 2009, 12:31:06 pm »
Oh I know I have to go - I wouldn't have suggested not going myself. Its the typical resonse I get from my DH. I think I've said before that he doesn't really do talking!! So I say I want to express my concerns about this weekend and rather than discuss and find some solutions he just starts saying I shouldn't go. And I know it'll be me trying to make it work all weekend. Me missing dinner to keep Jacob settled, me staying up all night when he is unsettled etc etc. The only other suggestion he has made is for me to just pop in for an hour or so at the drinks reception. I know why he is saying that - but it just makes me feel like his babies nanny iyswim? The one suggestion he never makes is 'I'll help you'. The best it gets 'is tell me exactly what you want me to do'.

And then that makes me not want to go as I now know that it will be all me on my own, while he is off with his mates.

His Dad is nice enough - just never gets round to doing anything - and the environment is completely unsuitable for Jacob.

Maybe I will be brave and change the milk. Can't really do any harm, can it?

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Re: just can't get it right - part 3!
« Reply #248 on: June 04, 2009, 13:03:49 pm »
I don't think dh likes to say anything or helping for fear of doing it wrong and getting told off, although Alex is ok at helping part from the morning he pretends he didn't hear her which really winds me up.

I had to have words with him about how stressed and tired I was and that I needed his help, he makes dinner in the evening most nights- his choice.

He say that as I am looking after her all day and do get a minutes peace i should put my feet up and he will do dinner. ah bless him.

Liz- I really would change the milk.. all it can do is make them consitapted but as he is already it can't make it worse.  I would try SMA follow on with a red label. made such a diffrence for us.

I've just put Isabella down for her nap at 1.35 same as the last 5 days and she has gone to sleep at the exact same time everyday 2.01... very very stange I swear has has an alarm clock in there.

but that was nearly 3hrs 25 A so lets see.. i think she was over tired for this nap.. who knows with her.
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Re: just can't get it right - part 3!
« Reply #249 on: June 04, 2009, 13:35:14 pm »
Some men...muttering things under their breath is their way of 'talking'  ::)  Only real way you can get anything out of them! 

I am very fortunate, Tyler is always doing things with Tristan in and out of the house.  He is very good when we are out and about, I can ask him to go change diapers and such and he never argues.  :)  I don't mean to sound proud or anything, but I really do feel like I got so lucky with DH, I mean he does everything and never gives me a hard time, in fact I'm the difficult one!  He has his quirks and whatnot, but we love 'em because we love 'em, c'est la vie, non?  ;)

As for FIL, well I think DH is so wonderful because his father was such an awful husband and father so he learned what he DID NOT want to be like.  DH has two older half-brothers he's never met (FIL walked out on that family too  ::))  Some people just weren't meant to be parents. 

No, you can't pick your family (and so many times I wish I could have picked mine!), and yes for the most part you do have to live with it.  But sometimes, some people just aren't worth it (speaking for mine and DH's point of view, not anyone else's!).  Neither of us have great support systems from our families, so we found eachother and we do it together.  :)

At the wedding Liz, you should just hand J to DH and say, "well, I'm off for a drink", then go hit up the bar and see what happens.  ;)  I mean, he's GOT to take care of J, afterall can't just leave him! 
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Re: just can't get it right - part 3!
« Reply #250 on: June 04, 2009, 13:51:39 pm »
Its not that DH won't do stuff - its just that he wants REALLY specific instructions. And if I don't give them then he does nothing. So for example - if I want him to help with tea, for example - I need to say 'will you please peel an onion and chop somes carrots'. So DH will do just that and go and sit back down again. Or he will change a nappy and then hand him straight back.

And if I fuss he just says he wants to be told what to do - and then when he doesn't have any instructions he can do his own stuff. Its just a very tiring way of doing it for me. Things will have to change a bit soon though as I will be back at work!!

He is a very kind man - but just lives in his own little world a bit. It always is to do with upbringing isn't it? He was very much left to his own devices as a child - and his is a good boy so never got into trouble or anything like that. Just sat in front of the TV a lot, fed himself, and washed just his own clothes etc. His brother is 8 years younger than him so I think his mum was always busy with the baby as it were. His dad is actually his stepdad and wanted his son raised differently from how his mum had raised him, so in many ways he has always been out there for himself. Its quite sad really.

Used to drive me mad when we first moved in together as he would wash all his own clothes and leave mine in the basket  ::).

If I did that J would end up screaming with a nasty bump to the head - with DH saying 'oh I let him do it - he has to learn'.

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Re: just can't get it right - part 3!
« Reply #251 on: June 04, 2009, 14:02:19 pm »
I think ALL men need specific instructions and a kick in the butt to get things done.  ;)

Well, just but Tristan down for his AM nap, less than 10mins of wiwo again, so I think that's ok.  I think we're dealing with SA, as when I'm holding him lately he really snuggles up to me which he never did before, and now if I do a bit of pupd, when I pick him up he snuggles, while before he would just squirm and cry.  Can SA exist only at sleep times?  Because he certainly doesn't have it during awake times, he'll play on his own and doesn't seem to care if I leave the room.

Anyways, I hope he naps for at least an hour.  I accounted for extra time getting him to sleep, so I think his A is 3hrs this AM (not sure what time he actually woke up, so I'm guessing a little)
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Re: just can't get it right - part 3!
« Reply #252 on: June 13, 2009, 12:37:16 pm »
Just thought I would put in a quick post to celebrate the site being up and running again and to make sure that it appears again in your unread replies.

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Re: just can't get it right - part 3!
« Reply #253 on: June 13, 2009, 13:31:34 pm »
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Re: just can't get it right - part 3!
« Reply #254 on: June 13, 2009, 13:34:38 pm »
It's good to be back, isn't it?  I'm not sure what happens about threads on the temp forum - I'm sure that if you start a new one though it will be answered.

Hope you guys had good nights.  E was up at 2.45 - dh went and snuggled with her - I think that she is teething badly now, as she has been really grumpy all day.  Our Saturday has been pretty dull so far.  We are trying to work out what to do this afternoon - it's a reasonable day, but not fantastic, so we think we should go out somewhere.

Hope you're enjoying the weekend.