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Re: What is the "suggested" length of breast feeding where you live?
« Reply #15 on: June 23, 2009, 14:36:54 pm »
Hi Jess!
Here in Sweden the breast feeding rates are supposed to be among the best in the world. I don't know what they currently are, but it is definitley seen as the natural way to feed your newborn and is not hidden away or frowned upon. The guidelines are exclusively bf for 6 months, then introduce solids while still bf-ing, and continuing to do so for as long as the baby and mother are happy with it, up to 2 yrs of age. There is a lot of emphasis on doing what feels right for you and your baby. Continue as long as you want if you are both happy with it, but don't feel pressure to continue to do it if it doesn't feel right for you.
In reality, I don't know many that have breast fed beyond a year, but most of the people I know here who's had kids are older than me. Most seem to wean between 6 months and a year, and as I've not lived here while bf DD I'm not sure what the reactions would be if i went past a year, or even to two. DD weaned herself at 9.5 months (due to us introducing a bottle once a day so I could work as pumping just didn't work for me anymore. Think there was some supply issues too :() Next time i would hope to be able to continue longer, and hoping that the maternity leave here (up to 2 yrs!) will enable me to do that without having to do the pumping at work thing again, and I have thought about what my reaction would be if someone made comments. I would just say that "nowadays all research shows that milk, and preferrably BM, should be the main food for a baby up to a year old. Solids should be intruduced slowly and gradually and ideally under the protection of the BM, and that WHO's new guidelines are to actually BF for 2 yrs". Give them the research, the facts ;)
I have already tried it out once (hehe) on a family friend (my parents' generation) who asked me how long I would plan on BFing next time. I said I hope to do it for at least 1 yr, and she seemed shocked. Then gave the story of how her daughter just wasn't satisfied on BM alone at 3 months and she HAD to go over to formula as her milk was no longer satisfying enough and that human milk is no good after a few months. Hmmm, I didn't say much, but a few minutes later me and another woman there were talking about how hard the first month is with the pretty much constant feedings, but that it gets better, and the same woman commented that she never fed that often, and that it wasn't that hard at all in the beginning. *She* fed 4-hourly and there's no need to feed more often. I went on to try to explain... and gave the new guidelines and what WHO are now saying, and she seemed shocked to find out, but couldn't of course argue as it is fact and who can then argue about you wanting to do what is proven to be best for your child.
Sorry to go on and on, but i do think that being armed with some things to say if you encounter comments or unsupportive people does help.
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Re: What is the "suggested" length of breast feeding where you live?
« Reply #16 on: June 23, 2009, 14:49:18 pm »
listening in..

In the US it seems to me as a bit of a joke as reccomended as PP said is 6 months but then stupid maternity leave is 6 weeks!!! Quite a joke!

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Re: What is the "suggested" length of breast feeding where you live?
« Reply #17 on: June 23, 2009, 15:43:49 pm »
OMG 6 weeks maternity leave! :o You hardly have time to stop bleeding in 6 weeks and if I remember right I had just got used to BFing by then. Can't imagine going back after only 6 weeks... I wonder why it's not longer?

I am so lucky to be here and be able to take at least a yr and a half, with the opportunity to stretch it to 2 yrs if I take out less money per day. UK isn't too bad now either at 9 mo, but I only got 6 for Lois and took 2 before the birth so started working part-time at 4mo. Sorry off topic...
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Re: What is the "suggested" length of breast feeding where you live?
« Reply #18 on: June 23, 2009, 17:08:03 pm »
Will give Polands take:

Recommended is to 6 mths exclusively but even in the most pro bfeding hosp where I had Emma they had bottles waiting and sterilised for "hungrier" newborns....
But all the paeds I have seen talk about "soups" as in pureed veg from 4 mths....
Oscar was a BIG EBF baby by 4.5 mths, weighed 8kg and started to get back to a 3 hr routine.....so I intro'd solids with him at 22 weeks eventually...started with baby rice on EBM
Emma is stil EBF at 5.5 mths, is no tiny thing but doing fine so far....am sure the doc will ask me next Mon at shots whether or not I have intro'd solids.
I feel more supported HERE in bfeeding than at home in Ireland, who have one of the worst rates in Europe. Know a few extended feeding mums here, a neighbour who feeds her 3 yr old son, 6 weeks younger than Oscar.

As for work....I went back at 4mths, worked fulltime 8-3 (usually till 4 but one hour off for bfeeding) and used my 10am coffee break and 1pm lunch break for pumping. I was very successful and O self weaned at 16 mths....

this time, E will be 7.5 mths when I go back....I have already notified HR that I will need that hour off at the end of the day or perhaps a half hour am and half pm (you can use the 60 mins as you wish, within reason). Their reaction was a bit weird....by Jan when E will be 12 mths I will need docs cert of proof of lactation! Went thro same with O....


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Re: What is the "suggested" length of breast feeding where you live?
« Reply #19 on: June 23, 2009, 17:36:36 pm »
OMG 6 weeks maternity leave! :o You hardly have time to stop bleeding in 6 weeks and if I remember right I had just got used to BFing by then. Can't imagine going back after only 6 weeks... I wonder why it's not longer?
The six weeks is for you to heal (sometimes 8 wk for a c/s), not for you to bond with baby or to establish bf'ing.  BTW, it's not gov't mandated that it be paid, either.  Just that they have to keep your job open.  (Often you can use some combination of disability, sick leave, annual leave [vacation], etc to "pay" for your time off.) 
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Re: What is the "suggested" length of breast feeding where you live?
« Reply #20 on: June 23, 2009, 17:41:53 pm »
here i got 16 weeks off paid in 2006 but they are increasing every year to meet EU standards so its now 20 weeks! Hooray! And with a well-timed Jan baby this time I am fully paid to the end of the summer hols...so 7.5 mths! Can't believe my luck this time!

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Re: What is the "suggested" length of breast feeding where you live?
« Reply #21 on: June 23, 2009, 18:33:03 pm »
i wish they would do that here, we are still at 16 weeks  ::) maybe that's why so many people wean between 3-6 months.

mukta ikwym about the mat leave being too short in US, just makes bf-ing all the more difficult!

i certainly will continue bf-ing as long as it works for dylan and i...and in general do not care much what people think about it. however at work with colleagues it's a different story. i have a pretty responsible role at my company and i just feel uncomfortable mixing this piece of what is really my personal life into my job, especially when i know there are mixed opinions of it. i worked hard to be in my position and hate to be judged for breastfeeding my child! though whoever said they are probably not judging as such, you are probably right, especially as these were 2 women i know well and like. there are quite a few men with no kids at my office though and i keep thinking jeez, if these 2 women react this way, i just really hope i don't constantly have to defend it when i go back. i don't know if i'm explaining the feeling right, and i know i just need to get over it but it bugs me. vick you're right that i just have to be armed with good responses about the benefits, etc and educate!   i am glad to hear tho that in many other places people wouldn't bat an eye if you did it longer.
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Re: What is the "suggested" length of breast feeding where you live?
« Reply #22 on: June 23, 2009, 20:20:29 pm »
Our experience here in Portugal is similar to the italian one. Although it's known that the recommendation is exclusive until 6 months, hardly anyone does it because there is so much pressure to introduce solids and to start formula when you go back to work. Also, if you're having issues and want help, it's easier to find someone who'll suggest formula, than someone who will help you work out your issues. I also find that if you want to work out your issues, you're classified as fundamentalist ... "Sure, breast is best, but it's only for the rare mom who can do it, why not go for formula when it's so good anyway?"
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Re: What is the "suggested" length of breast feeding where you live?
« Reply #23 on: June 23, 2009, 21:30:33 pm »
Crikey... 6 weeks, 16 weeks  :o  :o  :o

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Re: What is the "suggested" length of breast feeding where you live?
« Reply #24 on: June 23, 2009, 22:33:43 pm »
I think it totally makes sense why Canadians can fairly easily continue BFing for the first 12 months... we have that much time off on maternity leave.  If I had to go back to work in the US after a short 6 weeks, there would be no way I'd continue breastfeeding because of the time it would take to pump at work. The irony, as pointed out by a PP, is that the US encourages BFing for 6 months, but doesn't make it at all easy for those back-to-work moms.
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Re: What is the "suggested" length of breast feeding where you live?
« Reply #25 on: June 24, 2009, 02:39:42 am »
I think that bf'ing mothers are very lucky to live in Canada (or at least in my province AB).  There is so much support for a new mother to establish a good healthy nursing relationship with her newborn.  All my friends & I were asked if we intend to bf and if we needed a LC (or nurse) to help in those first few days.  Even rooming with your newborn is encouraged unless the mother is incapacitated. 



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Re: What is the "suggested" length of breast feeding where you live?
« Reply #26 on: June 24, 2009, 12:06:27 pm »
Even rooming with your newborn is encouraged unless the mother is incapacitated. 

Wow that statement has me amused... here where I live rooming in with your baby in most hospitals is the only option, I know the only hospitals that still have nursery facilities for healthy babies are the ones you need to mortage your house to stay at... here in Sydney (not sure about rest of Aus) rooming in is so totally normal if I heard of a mother who didn't have her child with her all the time be in NICU.
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Re: What is the "suggested" length of breast feeding where you live?
« Reply #27 on: June 24, 2009, 12:34:40 pm »
Same here. Actually, rooming in happens with several mother-baby pairs in one room. Our biggest maternity has 8 beds in each room ...
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Re: What is the "suggested" length of breast feeding where you live?
« Reply #28 on: June 24, 2009, 13:31:57 pm »
I guess it is an option for the mom not to have her newborn room in with her as there was a mother who shared a room with me had her ds in the nursery.  I felt kinda bad as dd was waking every few hours wanting to feed & I'm sure she'd rather sleep than listen to dd cry & the nurse & myself trying to get dd to latch properly. 
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Re: What is the "suggested" length of breast feeding where you live?
« Reply #29 on: June 24, 2009, 14:06:26 pm »
I can understand that but with all the knowledge on how important rooming in is, you would think they would promote it more, no?
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