Does EASY need tweaking or time for PU/PD??

[sherry lynn]

Sarah - wow!! That is awesome news. Now I'll know to ask people if their LO is taking a proper feed at 7am before the first nap Who would have thought that the DF could have thrown things off so much. Glad to hear of your success, I hope you get a repeat.

[sezzab]

Ahh yes- well we haven't had so much success since, mainly because we have had a couple of very mucky days out and about a lot so naps have been a bit hit and miss.

Keeps waking at 2 or 3 and can't always resettle her without feeding, which then throws off the 7am feed again!

She had 2 fantastic naps today though - 1.5 hours and 2 hours, even though the feeds were a bit off, i.e she didn't really want to eat till 8.30 even though she got up at 6.45.  I just try to make sure that if she feeds close to going down that she is awake when she gets to bed, so not EASY, more AEASY, but hey the progress on the naps is wonderful.  We will see how tonight goes after a day of good naps.  Hopefully she will get through to 7 and we can have another perfect day tomorrow.  Fingers crossed !

Sarah

[sherry lynn]

Is there anyways you can do a 1/2 feed, or a diluted one?

Your problem solving is good, and sometimes we do go through periods where the feeds are off, but you figured out what she needs and that's great.

Fingers crossed for you

[~Sara~]

Just to kind of chime in...   We recently had that problem with our LO.  He was waking up--it was a habitual waking--thinking he was hungry at 3 am, would take 4 oz, and then would eat maybe 2.5 oz in the morning.  We did the same thing that Sherry suggested: over the course of a few days, we reduced how much he was eating by 1 oz per night and made sure that he was at least getting that ounce during the day.  As we did this, his body started taking in more and more during the day.  It really does work!

[sezzab]

Have had heaps of family staying 4 a wedding so haven't been able to post for ages.  She has been waking at 3, but I haven't been feeding her.  Only problem with that is then she wakes at 5.30 for a feed and there is no way she will go back down.  If I do feed her a wee bit  at 3 then she will sleep through till 6.30ish...but then isn't interested in the morning feed.

Why do you think she is still waking between 2.30 & 3.30 even though I'm not feeding her?  Mind you last night she woke at 8pm, 9pm, 11pm, 3am & 5am so I am a very tired mummy today. 

That's question number 2 actually.  Yesterday she had a short 30min morning nap & then a 2.5 hr nap which ended at 2.15.  I tried to give her a catnap between 4 & 5 but she would't have one so then I put her to bed early- but the last A tme then ended up being 3.5 hours so I think she woke all night because she was overtired.  She also has a yucky cold and very blocked nose.I can't generally get out in the pram to assist with the catnap as thats when my toddler has dinner.  Any ideas?

Sarah

[~*Nicole*~]

OT can cause NWs but if she is waking consistently at a time you were feeding her it is likely still a habit. Can you try w2s an hour before her 3 am waking for a few nights to see if it helps to break it?

[sherry lynn]

If she is sick it's really hard to tell also. So it could easily have been a combo of sick/OT/and working on kicking the bad habit.

Hopefully with consistency and getting better things will get on track soon

[sezzab]

Well W2S worked brilliantly ladies- as did giving her a top up with formula at bed time after her breast feed.  We had sleeping through (well 7pm - 5.30am) for 10 days, after only a couple of days of W2S.....but now it has all gone haywire again.  I was up 6 times last night.  Random wakings so I don't know when to set the clock to go in.

Often end up feeding her around 4.30 or she wont go back to sleep. Then 7am feed is all messed up again.

Going to take a completely different track tonight and not dream feed her and see what happens.  She is having 3 solid meals now in addition to BF so we will see what happens.  Wish me luck!!

[sherry lynn]

How old is she now, and what has the day routine looked like?

[sezzab]

Hi there

Sorry I haven't replied for so long, I have ended up having a couple of lots of surgery unexpectedly which have completely thrown me.

Things have just gone completely pear shaped with DD.  But we have decided it is due to a flare up with her reflux due to starting solids.  We have just increased her meds as of 3 days ago to try and get her more comfortable.  I'm existing on about 3 hours sleep a night at the moment so things are pretty tough.  I can only hope we start to see an improvement soon before I decide to pack my bags and head to Brazil!

When we get her sorted pain wise I will try again to get some sort of routine happening!

Thanks for your help ladies.
Sarah

[~Sara~]

I'm sorry to hear that you've both had a rough past few weeks   I hope the meds work for her and you start seeing a difference soon.  And I hope you can get some well needed rest, too. *hugs*

[sherry lynn]

I sure hope she feels better soon. That doesn't sound like any fun for anybody. I'm glad you were able to figure out what was wrong. I hope you get some sleep soon. Could you get a few extra hours now that it is the weekend. Maybe a nap, or DH could get up in the morning.
3 hours is not enough for anybody.

Let us know when you need us, we'll be here to help you with your easy.

[mylittlelovelies]

so sorrry to hear things have been so hard.
Just a thought regarding the reflux. I'm not sure how old your LO is now, but have they by any chance been having some really vigorous attempts at crawling lately? The reason i ask is that my DD1 had reflux (so we know ALL about it...HARD) and our paediatrician said that crawling can really make it flare up just due to the position of the baby on their tummy but often with their head down (mashing into the floor as they try to push forwards) so the acid can more easily get from their stomach to their throat. Interestingly DD2 who is 6 months old now and has never previously had reflux, had some awful episodes of it a few weeks ago just when she was trying to crawl as she was pushing up high on her arms but then 'letting go' and slamming down SO hard on her tummy, she would do this over and over again and as the day went on would get more and more upset until even a burp or a hiccup would have her screaming with pain. Once i realised what was going on i kept an eye on how much tummy time she had (or at least how much she was squashing her tummy etc) and would pick her up and put her in the baby seat if it was going on too much as i found that stopped things progressing to the point that she was in pain. If i did start noticing her in pain (usually could tell as her pain cry is very distinct and would happen after hiccups etc) i would sometimes keep her upright for the rest of the day and found it really helped.
just a thought

hope you get it sorted out soon, and you get some sleep somehow.
Jessie

[sezzab]

Oh ladies.  Thank you for your kind words.  I am at breaking point today.  Have been up every hour in the night.  Reflux meds seem to be helping with getting her feeding better at least, but I have now assisted her to sleep so much that she just screams if I put her down in her bed before she is completely asleep.  I need to get her self setting to some degree, as I am sure that is now part of what is getting me up all night, she has totally lost the ability to put herself to sleep.

PU/PD isn't an option with her as it just makes her reflux so bad she vomits everywhere and gets beside herself.  Any suggestions?  Desperate for some sleep.

[sherry lynn]

You might have to do gradual withdraw of some type.
What props have you been using to get her to sleep?