Support Thread for 2 to 1 nap transition cont.

[AshleyB]

I am not looking forward to the time change this weekend! I really hope she'll adjust within a few days.

[Julianne1984]

We were up at 4:30am today nap at 9:30-10:20 I'm going to have to give him another nap and bed at 6/7ish ugh... x

[babyboy26]

Hi ladies!  I'm just jumping in this new thread to mark my spot!  We have been offline for about a week...yuck!  I have some reading to catch up on!

[JaspersMum]

Hi All,

not much to report this end.  I think DS is definitely teething as we continue to have a few issues at night time.  Using lots of pain meds and lots of cuddling!

Priya it looks like your DD is getting about 2 hours of day sleep, much less than she would usually, which would indicate 2 hours a day is optimal for a good night with no playing up at bedtime.

I'm not sure it matters whether you stick to her routine at childcare . . I would just be mindful to limit her day sleep to 2 hours and you might be right, whether or not she has a short am/long pm or long am/short pm.

[Julianne1984]

Up at 4am again, he stirred from 3-4, then 4-4:45am I did pu/pd for 15m, then the last 30mins he was just mumbling but wouldn't sleep xx

[shresmummy]

Ughh...I"m so over these NWs. The past 4 days we've had 2 slightly different routines depending on length of the AM nap but on all days she's had 2hr daytime sleep. No matter what I try these NWs just won't go away!! She has woken up up to 5 times each night I feel like a zombie. Thank goodness I"m not working this friday! I'm writing out her routine below. Do you think her NWs are routine related or just because she's DD. I thought she may have been teething but I can't tell for sure.

Mon/Tues (Childcare days)
Wake - 6:40
AM nap - 10:45 - 11:20ish (woke on own, didn't seem happy at cc)
PM nap - 2:30 - 4
bedtime - 8ish (no bedtime antics)

Wed
Wake - 7:20
AM nap - 11 - 12:30 (woke on own, happy)
PM nap - 3:45 - 4:20 (I woke her)
bedtime - 8:10 (tried since 7:35 cos I thought after 30 min nap the A time needs to be ~ 3hr?? but she kept right on playing!)

Thurs
Wake - 7:20
Am nap - 11 - 12:10 (woke on own, happy)
PM nap - 3:35 - 4:20 (I woke her)
Bedtime - 8:20 (tried since 8ish, had to AP in the end)

I have a feeling that DD needs at least two 4hr blocks of A time in the day. But I just can't fit it all in. Is it time to suck it in and move to 1 nap?

Julianna - how was today's wake time? Hope a bit later??
Lucy - How's D feeling?
Rachel - I hope DS cuts through the teeth quickly and you get back to your trouble free nights I wish DD was like that too.

She never seems to having nap refusal issues like some of your LOs, but boy are her nights bad!!!

sending get well soon and sleep vibes your way!

[Julianne1984]

Hey, we used to get nw's like that a few months ago when lo was really OT!

Today, DS woke at 5:10! No nw's either. And he's having a nap now (9am) so far for 1hr 10. I'mgoingto leave him until 1h30m max, so I can give him 30mins pm and still get him to bed at 7pm.  Xx

[LucySol]

Hey!
Priya.how old is she now? we had some awfull NW and i messed about with A times so much and it all came down to her being UT.it took me a while to realise this cos i was convinced her NW would def be OT.
PUshing thru to 1 nap was the way we got rid of them.We had a little bit of OT but we pushed thru it and came out the other end in a week.
yep,Daisy has just got over an ear infec 3 weeks ago.she has an ear infec in both her ears this time and now has Diarrhea and a dreadfull sore bum...we cant catch a break!! everytime she cuts a tooth she seems to get an ear infec.,anyone know if this can be connected?

Due to being ill we have had to go back to 2 naps but im going to try and push her back to 1 today now as she is feeling a lot better.wish me luck!!

We have seemed to come thru the time change pretty easily.Good luck to those goin thru it this weekend!

[shresmummy]

Hey Lucy, I've heard that you can get ear infections along with teething and also sometimes runny noses. And yes definitely sore bums. Apparently it has something to with the the poo being more acidic, due to excessive saliva, causing a change in the bacteria that normally live in the stomach during teething time. Weird huh?

Julianna,Yay for the good night   I also thought she was massively OT but you know I am beginning to think it's UT NWs. Because she just isn't acting the way she normally does when she's OT. when DD"s OT it's quite different and she cries differently to what she does now. But it's so hard to tell though with so many changes going on now, teething, developmental stuff etc.

We seem to have done the daylight saving time changes much earlier this year compared to everyone else

[JaspersMum]

Priya it sounds like DD needs a long A time before bed, that's for sure.  If you want her to have a 7.30pm bedtime, and she needs about a 4 hour A time before that, then last nap needs to finish at 3.30pm.  So working back from that, with the idea that she still needs two naps, you either have to do:

Wake - 6/6.30am
AM nap - 10/10.30 - 11.30/12pm (1.5 hrs max)
PM nap - 3pm - 3.30pm
Bed 7.30

OR

Wake - 6.30/7am
AM nap - 10.30 - 11am
PM nap - 2 - 3.30pm
Bed 7.30

Or of course you could limit both naps to 1 hour each.

DS did a long am (1.5hrs)/short pm (1 hr) today, after two days with little sleep (with carers).  He's going down better at bedtime though which is good.  I'm hoping he does at least an 11 hr night.  We'll be doing a short am/long pm tomorrow due to kindergym, so I'll need to be careful to not let him get too OT for his pm nap.

[AshleyB]

Update: Chandler's been doing well this week! She's been sleeping almost two hours at daycare, going to bed at 8 and sleeping through with only minimal wake-up noises during the night. I hope we're nearing the end of the transition!

[Julianne1984]

Oooh sounds promising!

Today so far:
A 5:10-9:00
S 9:00-10:15
A 10:15-14:30
S 14:30-15:00
A 15:00... so bed should be 7pm! X

[shresmummy]

Yay! Ashley, that's great news..hope the trend continues. Julianna, that sounds like a good routine given the EW. Hope it works out.

Update - last night DD had a pretty good night. Bedtime 8:20ish, brief wake required comfort around 9:30 then slept till 6:30 this AM no waking. yay! Now was that related to her routine from yesterday or just her being her deciding to get my hopes up 1 night?? hmmm..

[Julianne1984]

Well it's nearly 2am and he's attention seeking... crying his head off but as soon as I pick him up he's fine. Gr!

Atleast OH is back for one night tomorrow, no hang on, today (forgot it's morning already!) So I might get a break. X

[JaspersMum]

Julianne, do you think your LO is waking early due to OT?  How old is he again?  I just keep looking at your days and thinking his day sleep is on the low side, i.e. less than 2 hours. 

Happy news for you Ashley!  It will be lovely to hear when at least one of our LOs is finally and consistently on one nap!

DS did about an 11 hour night last night but was up around 6.20am which is too early, considering he'd been doing closer to 7am for the past 3 weeks.  I think its because the last two days he's had a late nap that has finished too close to bedtime.  DS doesn't need a long A before bed, but I have to be careful he doesn't sleep too close to 7pm. 

He had a 35 minute am nap from 10.05 - 10.40 and went down for his pm nap at 1.15.  Hopefully he wakes around 2.45 and then I'll probably need a 6.45/7pm bedtime.