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18 month old NW and feeds
« on: November 23, 2009, 11:39:50 am »
Hi,

Our 18 month old still wakes up twice during the night crying her heart out and the only thing that will settle her is a bottle.

Her routine is:

rise 6.30am
nap 11/11.30 for at 2.5 hours
bed at 7.30/8pm

She wakes at 11pm and 3am every night and takes 120 ml of milk at each wake.  We tried cutting out the bottles but she gets herself into such a state and cried for over an hour, we have even tried just giving her water but this only lasted a few days.

We have a 4 month old baby, which is when the problems began as she was pretty much weaned off the bottles just before the new born came along.  Then was jealous and had major tantrums when I fed a bottle to the little one, all she wanted was her bottle and as she was only 14 months then was too wee to understand it all.  The major change though was when her molars made their appearance.  She wouldn't eat anything during the day and would only take bottles at night.  Looking back I so regret the way we handled it all but with a newborn to look after too I don't really think I was thinking clearly. :(

Anyway, I need to resolve the problem and hopefully get her sleeping through the night like her 4 month old sister!  Any suggestions?

She is still waking up hysterically on occasion as the incisors are moving around in the gums so we give her panadol but she still wants her bottle.

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Re: 18 month old NW and feeds
« Reply #1 on: November 23, 2009, 17:33:52 pm »
No one can blame you for not thinking clearly with a newborn around! LOL!

I think what I'd probably do right now is slowly water those bottles down, so that at first she feels like she's getting milk but slowly she's getting fewer and fewer calories at night.  Eventually you'll be down to all water and at that point hopeully she'll be making up those calories during the day.

Now, since she's 18 months old you can go cold turkey and simply say "You're a big girl now! You don't need milk at night.  Mama will hug and cuddle you if you need it, but no more bottles."  You could even have a big bottle throwing out ceremony (of course, you'll just put them somewhere else for baby) and say "DD1 is a big girl! She doesn't need these!" and then break out a batch of new sippy cups to celebrate.  Perhaps even tell DD2 "Look at sissy! She's so big! She doesn't need ba-bas like you! You can't wait until you're that big, can you?"  And then let's do LOTS of talk about all the great things big sissy's can do that babies can't.  Even my son, who is an only child, LOVES to hear me talk about how babies can't do this or that but HE can.  He even will say stuff like "If a baby tried to do this he'd just fall down!" LOL! Of course, your DD doesn't have those verbal skills yet but believe me talk like that will get the wheels turning.  Much more distinguishing her for the BG things she does will help.

The cold turkey route will work, but you'll probably have 3 awful nights.  If you go the gradual method, I wouldn't take more than 7 days to water down those bottles.  Water them both down the same amt.  That will cut her nighttime calorie intake really quickly.


Since the wakings are exactly the same time every night, they are habitual rather than true hunger.  I realize she's downing those bottles so it *is* affecting her daytime caloire intake, but for her it really is a comforting habit more than anything.  Since you do have a young baby right now, you can make daddy in charge of DD1's bottle withdrawal so that you don't get more sleep deprived than you already are! Or, you might bring in a granny for the weekend so that you can sleep during the day so that you have the strength at night to withstand any tantrums that might occur.


The key is to make dropping the bottle seem like a GOOD thing to her!  I would act happy and excited about it -- like it just occurred to you, "Hey! DD1 is a big girl now! YAY! Let's throw a party!" In fact, you could even have a Big Girl Graduation Tea Party -- Invite grandma, aunt, cousins, friends, whatever -- just 2-3 people is fine -- and explain how she's a big girl now and doesn't need baby things anymore!  You could even wrap sippy cups up in boxes and wrapping paper and let her open them like presents.  maybe even a big girl stuffed animal to hug if she wakes in the night.  Really celebrate the crap out of it, LOL! They believe what we tell them, so if *you* say that she's a BG with a bunch of fanfare, she'll really believe it.  Even if you go the slow route, I think at the end of the 7 days I might throw a party like this (after a week of really talking up the advantages of being BG, of course!). 


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