to one sleep

[banu]

we are about to turn one sleep. he sleeps two naps at the moment. our routine is

wu: 07.00
nap1: 11.00-12.00
nap2: 16.00-17.00
sleep: 20.30

his A time between 3h30m to 4h. and he sleeps 1h or 1h15m with this A time. if i sleep him after 4h30m to 5h A time he sleeps 2h or 2h30min. and our night sleep time is 8.30 pm and this is our choose.

so do you think i sleep my lo one nap?

[brenda2]

how old is he?

if he can handle 5 hours A time and gives you a 2 to 2.5 hour nap then i think he is ready to go to 1 nap.  but bedtime will have to be earlier until he is adjusted.  when he goes to 1 nap i would aim for a 12 hour day - 5 hour A followed by 2 hour nap  followed by 5 hour A means a 12 hour day so bedtime would have to be 7 pm if he wakes up at 7 am. kwim? (i would aim for nap from 12-2pm but let him sleep as long as he wants, don't wake him up)

be careful with it, when we switched we did 2 naps on some days as she would get so tired, it was like catch up sleep, and then she would do 1 nap again.  just watch his cues.  some days he may be able to handle 1 nap and some days he may need 2 if he is doing something very stimulating that day, or teething , or sick, or just tired from a week of 1 nap.

when we switched for a while actually my lo did a 13 hour night and an 11 hour day - her bedtime was so early but we had to switch because of daycare, i would have let her do 2 naps a bit longer if i could have. 

[banu]

how i am unlucky!!!
*my lo has slept 2.5h after 5h A time but now he sleeps only 1.5h. should i do PUPD or W2S? his real A time is 4-4.5h
* these days are difficult; if i sleep my lo 2 naps, he has to take short naps, if he sleeps 1 nap then he has to take long A time? unfourtunatly, i arrange his sleeps not according to his tiredness, i arrenge according to his wake up time or his nap time

[brenda2]

what i would do is let him have 4 or 4.5 hours A time, then give him his first nap but wake him up after 30 min.  then another shorter A time and then nap 2 as long as he wants, then bedtime about 4 ours after he wakes from nap 2.  doesn't sound like he's ready for 1 nap yet if it's being cut short with suc a long A time.

example:
7 awake
11:15-11:45 nap
1-3 nap
7 bed

then the first nap just keeps getting cut shorter and shorter andthe second nap keeps moving earlier.

[banu]

thanks brenda,

what i did not understand is how will my lo sleep for the 2nd nap after 1h15min A time?
and secondly, my lo sleeps at 20:30 at nights, how will be routine be like?

thanks         

[~*Nicole*~]

When you cut the morning nap short.....it isn't long enough for them to be well rested so the next A time should be and can be short and they will usually nap in the afternoon for a good long nap before bed.

[brenda2]

agree with pp.

i know your "bedtime" is 8:30 but when cutting down day sleep and going to one nap you have to be flexible with this.  he will probably not be able to handle a 13.5 hour day during this time.  don't worry, eventually you will have that 8:30 bedtime back but for now when going through the transition i think you have to put to bed earlier in order to avoid OT.  it should really be more like a 12 hour day, so unless he starts waking up later in the morning you need to put to bed around 7 pm, 12 hours after he gets up in the morning.

when we switched to 1 nap with dd1 she went from doing this:
6 awake
10:30-11 sleep
1-3 sleep
8 bed

(10 hours at night)

to this:
7 awake
12:30-2:30 sleep
6 bed

(13 hours at night)

[banu]

thanks,
we are doing better now
how will be the E times with one nap? my son eats every 1 or 1.5 h. 6 times a day.

[brenda2]

when you say eats is this milk feeds or food or combination of both?

post your routine with milk and solids feeds

how old is he now?

[banu]

he is 13 m old.
our E routine sample for 1 nap;

09:00 breakfast - 200 cc
10:30 fruit, yogurt -330 cc
12:00 vegies with meat balls- 200 cc

14:00 - 16:30 nap

17:00 soup with bread -200 cc
18:30 rice flour with milk - 200 cc

20:30 sleep

[brenda2]

how many bottles of milk is he getting?

i think this is what we were doing at 13 mo, adjust timing for your wakeup and bedtime:

7 awake and breakfast (solids)
9 milk
10:30 snack (solids)
12 lunch (solids)
12:30-2:30 nap
2:30 milk
3:30 snack (solids)
5 dinner (solids)
6:30 milk
7 bed

looks like you are doing 3 meals and 2 snacks which is right.  he should also be getting 2 or 3 bottles of milk.  at 13 mo my lo was getting 3 bottles and we went down to 2 bottles around 15 or 16 mo.