10hr 45 min night?

[okinawamama]

Is a 10.45 min night ok? I used to get at least 11 and sometimes 11.5, but my 8.5 month old has now started doing shorter nights for about a week now. Is 10hr 45 min OT?

[Tweakster]

Hi there oki,  Finn started shaving his nights too and we got major OT.  It has to be monitored because it normally catches up with them - particularly if they don't nap well :-)  It's like a domino effect, nights go bad, then naps go bad, then nights get worse due to OT and so on and so on...

Have you checked your routine over on EASY board? If you pop it up here you might get some eyes on it too. It's usually a routine issue, although ours seems to be random (milestones, developmental).  Sometimes there is just no 'why'.

[okinawamama]

Wendy, I am getting some help on the naps board, but we're still having a hard time figuring things out. Since we've been messing with his A time we've had his nights shorten a little. Not sure why. Also,  6 out of the 9 nights, he's doing this wake early, babble for anywhere 20-60 minutes and then fall asleep (completely on his own) for another 45- 1hr.

Here is our schedule yesterday......however, each day lately has been a little wonky...you know how it goes
sleep for the night at 6:45pm
A: 5:40-6:15
S: 6:15-7:10
E:
A:
S: 10:45-11:20 woke cried out, then started to babble. I tried to resettle but he was just crawling around making this clicking noise with his tongue that he's recently learned
E:
A:
S: 2:45-3:20 again, wouldn't resettle and woke fairly happy. Normally I wouldn't keep him awake this long but I thought I'd try something new and wait for some tired cues, but he of course never made any and it was getting to be far to long of A time.
6:45 in bed

* he sleeps through with no wakings ( I knock on every piece of wood when I say this), but wakes slightly before the 11 hour mark, and often falls asleep even after that. I know that it might become a habit for him to wake early, but when his naps are so short I have a hard time waking him, it seems he would need that hour that he's getting after he initially wakes, Especially since there is zero assistance from me to get him back to sleep. *

I've been trying to trouble shoot over on the nap boards, and huntersmommy has been great, but I'm still not getting it quite right. I'll post over there about my day today and see what she thinks.

I know that the 2-1 is coming soon, and I'm just not sure if this wonky-ness is part of that. He has NEVER been a long napper, we have fought 45 min naps or less since 3 months and have never consistently (longer that 4-5 days in row) had longer naps, it's just now that the nights have shortened. Could it be that he's just on the low end of sleep?

[Tweakster]

Hmm he could be on the low end but I suspect developmental.  Finn just does his own thing too, no matter what tweaks I make or how I follow the clock or even his lead, it's still random every day.  If he's waking and going back to sleep, personally I would leave him IF you don't think it's throwing your day off AND he is still napping appropriately.  If he's using that time as a pseudo-nap you may have trouble getting him to take his AM nap and then the PM nap will fall apart.  We often do much better with maintaining as much consistency as possible, so same time awake and up every day.  I would just keep an eye on the shaved nights and short naps and hope that OT doesn't build.  Some kids are good at catch up sleep, Finn isn't one of them so here's hoping with Ambrose :-)