Nervous for one nap...questions

[*Liz*]

Yep it is just fine - we are still like that anyway.

I know some manage a clock perfect routine - but I have never really seen how that is possible TBH.

[scucci1979]

We got a 10hr and 45 min night. Not sure if it OT or UT. I don't know how long she slept for her CN yesterday. 10 or 20min?   Think I may give her two naps today.

[*Liz*]

Can I be nosy as ask what your routine was yesreday on 2 naps?

Go with what you think really - I'm just interested as the late CN backfired on me really fast at this stage.

[scucci1979]

I was talking to hubby and he thinks the CN affected her sleep.  I am going to keep her up until 11:45am and hopefully she will have a nice long nap. 
I have noticed my lo is similar to yours so I trust your opinion. 

Yesterday's routine was like:

wake 7am
nap 1 11:30m-1:30pm
cn put her down at 4:45pm, and I think she fell asleep but heard her at 5pm. I got her up at 5:10pm. I think she slept for 10min.
bed 7:30pm.

[Mashi]

I was talking to hubby and he thinks the CN affected her sleep.

That was my first instinct when I read your post....that it is similar to how LOs are at the 6/7 month age of dropping the catnap: eventually it starts cutting into their night sleep because they think they have gone to bed for the night and when you wake them from the catnap they see it as an interruption of their night sleep.  I don't know for sure if that is the case but it does sound like a good possibility.

[*Becky*]

I think if it were me Sabrina I would just power on with one nap. Madi seems to be a great napper and so it might be worth sticking to one nap for a few days to see how she gets on. I know there are some who do better with alternating 1 and 2 nap days but there are also some who do better with just sticking once the switch is made and maybe she is one of them. Maybe plan to just do one nap and if one day she seems more tired in the am she could have 2 but keep aiming for 1. What do you think???

[scucci1979]

It's funny because she doesn't have any NW just EWs. 
Liz: I never thought of it that way.  That makes perfect sense. The only thing that concerns me is if she wakes early from this nap, I will have to implement an early bedtime which I have not done in a very very long time. I am afraid that she will only sleep a max 11hrs, which will then give us a 6:30am wakeup.  ykwim? I suppose I will never know until I try.

Henry: I do agree that she may be better off with one nap.  I pushed her A out this morning to 4hrs and 45min. I am aiming for a one nap day today.  Why or why can't it be an easy transition?

[*Liz*]

That would have totally backfired on me. I found once he was not prepared to go to sleep by 4pm, and wake by 4.30pm latest that it just wasn't worth it. At one point I was APing the CN in and that is how I learnt it would backfire.

Early bedtimes used to be a no-no here for such a long time as J would only sleep 11hrs. But now we can get 11.5hrs no problem and sometimes 12 hrs.

I also found we needed to move to 5hrs A very quickly after starting on one nap to make sure it was over 2hrs and to get us to a decent bedtime.

They certainly are going a similar path down this transition - except for J refusing the CN completely from about now on.

[scucci1979]

Mashi: you always have great advice! I suppose the late CN could be affecting her night sleep.  I just don't want to push too much as she may not really be ready.   

I guess I am fortunate that Madi only refused her CN on rare occasions.
She slept for 3hrs today, up by 2:45pm. I put her to bed at 7:15pm and she chatted, moved around, bumped her head and fell asleep by 7:35pm. Is that a good sign that she lasted this long?

I can't figure her out sometimes.

[Mashi]

I think that if she is doing 4.5hours normally, then after a 3 hour nap to stay awake for 5 hours is to be expected!!  Is it a good sign....well that depends on what you think of long A times and one nap!!!  LOL - for me I hated it, I'd rather my DS still be on 3.5h awake and taking 2 naps, I find that 5 hours of him being awake is too much for ME to take!  He's so full of energy and so spirited and demanding that I need him to get out of my hair after a few hours and more than just once per day!! 

I don't really think you can judge if it is a good/bad thing but it is probably normal. I found that when we were on 2 naps A times were predictable but when we went to one nap A times were NOT so predictable...meaning that just because she does x amount of A time after x length of nap right NOW does not mean that is always it....there is only one chance to rest in the day and so during periods of catch-up (for instance) a 3 hour nap might mean she is still tired enough to go to bed at 4h or 4.5 h.

[scucci1979]

I totally agree!! She is so full of energy that by bedtime, I am exhausted.
I have noticed a pattern. With one naps she wakes up anywhere between 6:30-7am, and that is with a 7:30pm/7:45bedtime.  This morning she woke up at 5am, I had to go settle then again at 6:50am.     I used to always have to wake her in the morning. Is it because she is trying to get used to this one nap?  Do I ride it out? Do I do two naps today? Frustrating. 

[scucci1979]

update: I tried to keep her up but she was falling asleep, so I put her down at 11:15am. That is 30min earlier then normal. I suppose she is really tired. 

[*Liz*]

This happened to us during the transition as well Sabs - he just looked shattered in the run up to his nap. But I found if I did let him down early he would nap for less than 2 hrs and we would be in a mess. Depending what happened overnight of course - I have always brought his nap forwards after a really bad night.

Seems like she might be tiring and needs a 2 nap day if she will have one.

[scucci1979]

I am aiming for a two nap day and hopefully tomorrow she will have one nap.  How will I know to stay consistently on one nap? Is it if she is good spirits. 

[*Liz*]

Well - I knew here when the CN started to affect his night sleep and he was TOTALLY refusing it at that point anyway.