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Re: Long NW's
« Reply #15 on: January 10, 2010, 17:54:29 pm »
I am guessing it is probably not SA yet. He did not seem to have any issues with being left and today he has definitely not been clingy or anything. Probably gas from broccoli which is just weird for him as he eats broccoli all the time and has never had a problem before but, oh well! Last night he fought going to sleep but once he was asleep (around 6:50), he slept until 11pm and then woke and cried for a bit and as soon as I went into him, he stopped, turned back over, and went to sleep. Then he didn't wake up until 6:50 so that was great. DH wanted to cuddle with him in bed so I brought him into DH and then went to make tea, get a bottle ready, etc...and when I went back in there (probably about 45 minutes later) both of them were sound asleep ::) so our naps might be thrown off a little today! Oh well, clearly they were both enjoying themselves! So I am quite happy with how our nights have been going. I still haven't taken away his paci yet so I am trying to psych myself up to do that.



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« Reply #16 on: January 11, 2010, 00:38:47 am »
Jenn, that sounds like a pretty good night, tbh.  Hopefully the trend continues :)
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Re: Long NW's
« Reply #17 on: January 11, 2010, 02:36:11 am »
Thank you! I definitely thought the night was fantastic! He is just doing really, really well!



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« Reply #18 on: January 11, 2010, 15:26:40 pm »
Last night was another success. DS went to bed about 7:15pm since we had late naps due to his son/daddy sleep-in. He did his am nap, woke at 1hr, cried, I went into him and he went back to sleep for 45min. Would this maybe be an OT nap? It was after 3hrs A time but since DS had that extra sleep with DH, I am not sure how to count it? Anyways, he had a good but late pm nap so he had a later bedtime. He slept until 1am before crying and needing me. And then from there, he slept until 6:30 and then until 7:15. So we are really, really happy with that. I cannot even hear him wake up in between those times anymore to self settle. He might still be doing it but without me hearing or maybe he too has discovered the beauty of sleep! In all, we are incredibly happy with his progress!



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Re: Long NW's
« Reply #19 on: January 11, 2010, 20:56:20 pm »
This am nap, DS went to sleep after a 3hr 10 min. A time but only slept for 45 minutes before being seemingly WIDE awake. Could he have had  sudden need for an A time increase? Not really sure what to do for this afternoon. Maybe I will put him to bed after 2hr 30min? I am scared for tonight  :-\



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Re: Long NW's
« Reply #20 on: January 11, 2010, 21:22:46 pm »
HI there Jenn, yes he could now that he's caught up on sleep.  Or he just thinks he does today for some reason.  It's hard to tell sometimes.  The second A time is always a tough one after a shorter nap...I would watch him at the 2 hr 30 for sure and aim for between there and 2 hr 45. 
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Re: Long NW's
« Reply #21 on: January 13, 2010, 01:49:20 am »
I tried DS with the same A time this morning of just over 3hrs. We got another 45 minute nap, completely happy to be awake so I am going to extend his morning A time tomorrow. I think he must need an increase. His pm nap is around 1hr 25 min at this point with the A time of 2hr 50min (even with the short nap?). His nights are still going really well. Last night was interesting as I was incredibly sick and poor DH could not get DS to go to bed after he woke up at 12pm. After crying for a long time, he finally went to sleep and slept well. We are still working on DH getting him to bed. He will go to sleep for DH initially,but if he wakes up in the middle of the night, he only wants me. This is sort of hard to change as I am the only one who gets up in the nights with him as DH has to get up at 5:15am to go to work. Anyways, our nights are still going very well with one NW in the middle and one NW around 6am.



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Re: Long NW's
« Reply #22 on: January 13, 2010, 01:55:59 am »
Yay Little Ethan!!  Sounds like overall things are improving so much...er, despite not wanting to resettle for Dad (sorry that you're sick :().

I'd try extending that A time tomorrow.  And yes, some LOs can still handle a huge portion of their normal A time after a short nap (my kiddo only knocks off 10-15 minutes of a full A time after a short nap).  Could be the case with him, too.
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Re: Long NW's
« Reply #23 on: January 13, 2010, 15:22:39 pm »
Thanks Sara, I am feeling much better now!

Our night last night went right back to waking every hour :'( Every time he reverts back to this, it is so frustrating. Maybe it will only be for one night. Here was our day yesterday:

Wake 7:15
S: 10:25-11:10
S: 2:00-3:25
Asleep in bed by 6:20

Then he woke at 7pm fighting sleep until 8 when he finally gave in. Very OT. Then he woke every hr after that until getting up this morning at 7:15am. Our day before yesterday was exactly the same but he only woke up once at night then ??? Maybe he was just OT from such a short nap.  So now, would you extend his morning A time given the amount of NW's for last night or leave it the same as he might be more tired this morning? I will watch him to see how he is doing but he is so laid back, he does not give sleepy cues! (not complaining!).



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Re: Long NW's
« Reply #24 on: January 13, 2010, 20:27:28 pm »
For this am nap, DS actually started showing me sleepy cues so I followed them and put him to bed. It was earlier then usual, around 2hr 50 min so about 20 min earlier then he normally goes down, but he was yawning, rubbing his eyes, laying his head against me. So I put him to bed and he woke up very happy exactly 45 min later to the minute. Sooo, I guess I screwed that up! Anyways, I am hoping for a good pm nap although I might be giving him a CN too as his pm nap will be really early. I just really, really do not want our nights to get all messed up again. Last time this happened it took me two months to get him back to this point. Its a good thing they are so cute!



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Re: Long NW's
« Reply #25 on: January 13, 2010, 20:47:25 pm »
HI there Jenn, I just caution you about too much day sleep, it can also really mess up the nights.  Is he teething or something?  Every hour on the hour just seems like discomfort of some kind rather than a routine issue.
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Re: Long NW's
« Reply #26 on: January 13, 2010, 20:55:35 pm »
s he teething or something?  Every hour on the hour just seems like discomfort of some kind rather than a routine issue.

I know! I gave him meds in the middle of the night as I was thinking the same thing. There was no change. He just seemed OT the whole night. Like not calming down but sort of crashing iykwim? He would be crying and fussing and then all of a sudden his head would crash down and then he would jerk awake again, which is exactly what he does when he is fighting sleep when OT.

I will be careful about too much sleep, thanks for the heads up! Hopefully I will not have to do a CN, I just do not want to have his bedtime to be earlier then 6pm.



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Re: Long NW's
« Reply #27 on: January 13, 2010, 21:30:39 pm »
Jenn - has he ever had gas or reflux issues? I agree with Wendy - sounds much more like discomfort than OT (with the every hour thing)
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Re: Long NW's
« Reply #28 on: January 13, 2010, 21:53:16 pm »
He has never had reflux issues although I would be tempted to say that he might of in the first three months of his life. Until he was about 6 months old, he was a very gassy baby. Now it doesn't *seem* to bother him, but still could be ???

The reason I am saying OT is because the past 5 months of his life he has slept like this, awake every hour. Then in November he slept well for one week, and then last week he slept well for 5 nights, I think. The times he slept well there has been no real routine change other then me trying to work on letting him self settle. I have charted all of his food intake to see if there is a possible food intolerance that might match up with his sleeping patterns and I have not been able to find anything :-\
I know it does sound like a discomfort rather then OT but I am just not sure what the discomfort could be and just knowing he has done this so much before.



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Re: Long NW's
« Reply #29 on: January 14, 2010, 03:25:12 am »
Oh, no!  It's the dreaded two steps forward, one step back.  It does sound like discomfort...but it could be OT, too (we've had those nights when we were using a prop + OT...no fun!)

So now, would you extend his morning A time given the amount of NW's for last night or leave it the same as he might be more tired this morning? I will watch him to see how he is doing but he is so laid back, he does not give sleepy cues! (not complaining!).
I would have done exactly what you did, and that's follow his cues.  Yes, even though he gave you a happy 45 minute nap...I would have suggested not pushing A time after a night like that.  Personally would much rather deal with UT nap than an OT one ::)

Maybe let's see how tonight goes.  Perhaps by the time you gave him the medication, he was just so tired on top of possible pain that he still couldn't go to sleep well. ???
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