Toddler Support Thread for 2-1 Nap Transition Continued

[marlowsmom]

Thanks Mstrboo!  
Thanks to your tidbit of info about the EW stemming from OT, I got Marlow back to sleep at 5am.   She woke at 630am, put her thumb in her mouth and did a faceplant then woke at 730am.   She had a 12 hour night!   It wasn't solid b/c she woke at 2am but she clearly needed the extra sleep.    
Now I have to figure out how to get her to eat more food at dinner so it can carry her through the night.    She used to eat plenty then STTN.    She got sick about a month ago and she hasn't eaten as much since then.

[nelliestar]

Good luck for Monday Wendy! Fingers crossed for you and your LO.

N xxxxxxxx

[Tweakster]

Thanks!  He's there now.  Ho hum.  What to do.  Will he sleep?  Will he eat?  Ugh. 
We had an awful night, he had 4 NW - 1 of which I had to attend to.  I do believe it's OT caused by teething those molars AND from our 'day out' last week.  I pray that the canines are actually easier...or at the very least faster when they do come in. 

What's happening around here now?  Anyone bite the bullet to 1 nap?

[nelliestar]

Not me! We've got canine teeth coming and booster injections today...ugh.
 
Following your thread on the couch and sending you lots of hugs and strength.....this going to Nursery business is horrid. Bram has been going to the nursery where i work for 7 months now and I still worry every time he goes about his naps and eating. PND and anxiety make it so much worse too.

Let us know over on your thread how Finn was at pick up time and since ...would love to know!

Nell xxxxxxxxxxx

[Tweakster]

Thanks Nell, have posted, things went well.  But alas, he only napped 1 hr lol.  Did you find that Bram started napping ok after a certain adjustment period or was he always good with napping?

[nelliestar]

He didn't nap well at nursery at first Wendy. Then he did great. Hes always done well napping at home. Now because we have the 2-1 issues he has been doing 45 mins am and pm at N. The only 1 nap day wasn't a success as you know! We get home at 6.20pm and he is at the end of his tether by then. Bed early at 7 or before on nursery days!!

So glad things went well. Will go over to the other thread now and have a look,

Hugs,

Nell xxx

[Tao]

Ahhh! Don't know what to do for Sophie anymore. She has a thirty minute a.m. nap after almost 4 hours of morning A time, but I can't get her to go down for p.m. nap, even after 3 hours of A, 3.5 hours of A or 3.75 hours of A. Do I just keep pushing the afternoon A? If so, I get close to having to create a very late BT.

I am so close to just biting the bullet and doing one nap as it seems that her A times are so high now (although 5 hours of A does seem to be a bit too much for her.)

Not sure what to do at this point...

Also, I was just wondering if anyone else has experienced a change in the way your LO goes down for naps and BT as they get older? DD is now 11 months and 1 week old and our wind down routine doesn't seem to be working the same anymore. Before I would be able to do bath, nurse, walk around the dinner table for 5 minutes, story, nurse until really calm and then into bed awake. Now, when I try to plop her down after this wind down, she stands up and starts to scream. Not sure if it's SA...has anyone else experienced this?

Thanks!

[nelliestar]

Hi Christine!

Would a long am nap and short pm nap work do you think? I am assuming you are waking her after 30 mins or am I wrong? We have had to switch to  a long am and short pm and it is working for us at the moment. 11 months seems young to go to one nap but I am not an expert - just what I have picked up on here!
 Others posters have said we should try to hold on to 2 naps for as long as we can so thats whys we switched things round.

Good luck with whatever you try,

Nell xxx

[Tao]

Hi Nell,

Thanks for responding =). I'm not sure! We used to do long a.m. and short p.m. until she started refusing pm altogether! That's why I started lowering a.m. nap after 30 minutes, but it seems like even after 30 minutes of a.m., and 3.5 hours of A time, she will still stand up after we put her down and scream and fight her nap. I guess it wouldn't hurt to try long a.m. again =), although I'm wondering what the afternoon A time would have to be if she won't go down after such a short a.m. nap, wouldn't her afternoon A time need to be really long?

What is your current A after a long a.m. nap?

Thanks. I know I'm trying to hang onto two naps as long as I can but it is sooo hard getting her to get that second nap in. She fights it!!

Thanks!

[marlowsmom]

Tao-
Have you considered a shorter AM nap of 20 minutes?   My LO has been on this schedule for a couple of months.
Wake 630am
AM nap 1030-1050am (20 min)
PM nap 2pm-330 pm (1.5 hr)
bed 730pm

[Tao]

Hi MarlowsMom,

Thank you so much for sharing this schedule. I have not tried 20 minutes yet, and it sounds like a good idea. I will try it today. When they stop taking 20 minute naps, do we still cut it shorter then, or do we then move to 1 nap?

Thanks. I will let you know how it goes =).

Christine

P.S. Marlow is adorable!

[Tweakster]

Hi there Christine, we moved to 20 mins AM at 10.5 mths.  It carried us through to 11.5 mths until he started total refusal on that AM nap, we moved to 1 nap just before 12 mths but it hasn't been without it's share of troubles - so I would say hang on to 2 as long as you can (we didn't try hard because he has now started daycare and they have a 1 nap regime).  I know a lot of mums have success with the 20 min AM/long PM for many months.

Good luck!

[Tao]

Hi Wendy,

You have been so wonderful and helpful. I have learned SO much from you. Thank you for constantly adding your two-sense into my crazy days! When Finn was on 20 minute naps, how long of an A were you able to have after that?

I was also wondering, have you noticed that with this age that if you don't get the right A time to where they are truly ready for their nap or BT, that they really have a hard time going down? I used to think it was that I needed to do sleep training, but I know my DD can sleep independently. I'm starting to think that it just has to be the "perfect" time to where they are truly ready to sleep; otherwise, forget about it!! =).

Thanks again!

[gavinsmum1]

Christine,
I totally understand what you mean about getting the timing right.  We just went to one nap with Jesse and his last A time needs to be just right otherwise, he'll fight BT if he's OT and he'll fight it if he's UT.  Luckily, we seem to have caught on to how much time he needs before bed fairly quickly.  Having him put into bed 10 minutes before 5.5 hours has passed since his nap seems to get rid of all that resistance we'd seen nights before.  Unfortunately we're getting OT here and the one nap he's going down for seems to be shortening!!! This crummy stuff never ends!!!

[hjrmom01]

I can't seem to get the before bed A right at all We were doing 4.75 and that was working great for a while....then nights got shorter and we started having some EW, now NW and EW.  Last night he was asleep at 7:40 (4.75hr), woke at 12:50 for some Tylenol, then up at 5!!!!!! I still held him off until 12:30 for nap and he's been sleeping almost 3 hrs! Now I have no idea what to do before bed.

When we tried 5 hrs we got 10.5 hr night. There are days where he's signing "night night" during bath.  Anyone have any suggestions???