Things are getting worse!

[skatty]

Rachael it sounds as if  a tiny nap and a a longer night work for Maya so I agree with you working on the EB and just letting her gave a catnap at most 

[babybarr]

That sounds like a good plan and at least that way you are not fighting all the time for a nap.

[RACHPEM]

Yay, fast asleep by 6.30, no nw and woke at 6am, (no nap yesterday) result!!! lets hope it continues x

[skatty]

Fantastic 

[babybarr]

Brilliant!!

[RACHPEM]

Must have jinxed myself!!! absolute horror going down tonight and she has had more sleep, work that one out? I have not know her create such a fuss and she was clearly tired, do you think now she has caught up she is more tired and i should have gone for an earlier bt? let me know your thioughtsx

[babybarr]

So 6am awake this morning.  Did she have a nap today?  and what time was bed?  Sorry wasn't quite clear in my head!  I'm thinking if she was awake at 6am and had no nap a 6pmish bedtime would probably be required maybe?    Fingers crossed for tonight.

[skatty]

I always find once L is on the road to catching up on sleep her body really needs to catch up so definitely EB again, Maya is extrememley OT, one good sleep isn't going to fix it I'm afraid 

[RACHPEM]

Hi girls, thanks for keeping with me on thisx, yes Maya was awake by 6am yesterday morning, no nap and finally fell asleep  by 6.40, she played up quite a bit and tried to drag out bt!!!! she was very tired by 4pm but managed to keep awake.  She then woke at 3am for a wee, straight back to sleep until 5.10!!!!! I know it is not going to happn overnight just got excited with the 6am start. Trouble is what do i do today as so early up? cat  nap and still early bt? xx

[babybarr]

cat  nap and still early bt? xx

If it were me that's what I'd do.  I'd probably opt for an earlyish nap to ensure long enough A time still before bed - not sure how that'd work for you.

[skatty]

At 4 pm you could do a 20 min catnap, just enough to get you 2 -2½ hrs before bed, this worked very well with Leorah though she was younger, otherwise if she was so tired by 4pm she was obviously way OT by bed and took a long time to drop off, scary maybe but why not try a 5-5.30pm bedtime after such an early start, she may surprise you! I think the general advice is to have them in bed asleep by the 12 hour mark, with Leorah this is the 10½ hour mark aótherwise we get either a NW or an EW 

Actually I just thought about it and L was only around 12 months when the 20 min nap = 2hrs A time, maybe a 10 -15 min nap would be better though personally I would just do an extremely EB. It sounds like too late bedtime = EW for Maya and spirited kids are sooo sensitive to OT.

[RACHPEM]

Cheers Kat, really appreciate your input and sticking with me on this x

[skatty]

 

[RACHPEM]

Ok,here goes! Maya was at nannies yesterday and had no nap, she was fast asleep by 6.15 ( i was working so could not get any earlier) anyway she woke at 4.44 and i thought great 10.5 is all she is going to do but she actually went back to sleep for an hr!!!! which never happens, still too early but getting nearer to that 6am target tme and at least 11.5 hrs sleep. x

[skatty]

That's great, I would actually class that as a NW rather than an EW, makes it seem easier to get her to go back to sleep if you class it as night! It would be great if she doesn't nap to try and have her asleep before 6pm tonight, even earlier if you can and hopefully she will surprise you and do a long night