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Trouble with EASY...please help!!
« on: March 10, 2010, 02:34:11 am »
I am still in the middle of my first BW book...who has time to read?!?!?!?  I really love the idea of EASY and want to try it with DD, who is 7 weeks old tomorrow (where does the time go???)  DD's routine so far is not very typical of others her age.  I know that every baby is different, but I'm wondering if I should be concerned about her sleep.  During the day, she only sleeps for 1/2 hour at a time all day long and it takes longer than that to get her to sleep!  She BF's every 2 hours and only eats for 8-12 minutes at a time.  She gets tired every hour and starts to fuss, but won't go to sleep until she has been up for at least 2 hours.  Here is a sample of her routine from this week:
went to bed @ 8:19 pm
got up @ 1 am
went back to bed @ 1:24 am
got up @ 5 am
went back to bed @ 5:30 am
got up @ 8:24 am
nap 9:37 -10:11 am
nap 11:20 - 11:45 am
nap 1:05 - 1:25
nap 2:45 - 3:00
nap 4:12 - 4:44
nap 6:18 - 6:25
bed @ 8p
Am I doing something wrong?  Any help would be greatly appreciated!!
I am also wondering how you all go about sticking to EASY while out and about, like running errends and the like?  DD doesn't like being in the car and screams for the first 10 - 15 minutes then falls asleep which messes up EASY.  Does anyone else have this issue?  Sorry for all the questions!!!
Thanks
~Kim

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Re: Trouble with EASY...please help!!
« Reply #1 on: March 11, 2010, 08:17:30 am »
Hi Kim and welcome to BW!!!

usually a 30min nap is indicative of OT (overtired) so Im wondering if you are able to put her to bed a little earlier (only by 10mins or so) what do you do for a wind down? this can affect their sleep if the wind down isnt sufficient enough.
as for going out and about, i cant help there sorry, we had the same issue (not the screaming, just no sleeping which really messed up easy) and so we just didnt go out much, or i would go out and DH would stay home with DS.

what method are you using to try and extend her naps?





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Re: Trouble with EASY...please help!!
« Reply #2 on: March 12, 2010, 16:13:04 pm »
DS is 17 weeks and I've found that it's easier to keep to the routine if it's my activity rather than his. We are going to baby massage, baby swimming and breastfeeding group which are all for him, he needs to be awake (for at least the first two) and are on completely different times - one at 10am and the other one at 11.30am!!!

So, after I panicked that I wasn't going to be able to do those things I managed to come up with a plan which seems to be working and is:

1- we make sure the Es are always at the correct intervals (in his case every 3.5hrs) - what I do, if I know that we'll have baby massage let's say at 10am, where he'll need to be awake is that I time his first feed for 9am and follow the other feeds from that one, so I would feed him again at 12.30, 4pm and 7.30. On that day he'll get two feeds closer together in the morning, the one when he wakes up and the 9am one. (that also means that sometimes he'll get two feeds close together at bedtime)
2- wake up time and bedtime are always the same no matter what!
3- everyday have at least one of the big naps in his own cot (which is usually the afternoon one - 2 hrs). And make sure to keep extending his naptime with pat/shush if he's unsettled
 4- if we're driving somewhere that's going to take more than 45 min we try to fit it that it's on his S time

Hope this gives you some ideas.


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Re: Trouble with EASY...please help!!
« Reply #3 on: March 13, 2010, 03:41:52 am »
Hi Kim :)

I'll leave the napping tips to Jo (I was never the best at extending naps TBH) but wanted to pop on and offer some support for you as the first few weeks of EASY are definitely the hardest.  It DOES get easier to get out and about as your lo gets older - A times get longer, feeds get stretched a bit further apart, and naps get to be fewer in number but (hopefully!) longer and all that makes it much easier to go about life :)

Here's an FAQ with some tips for you, not sure if you saw it but thought I would share the link just in case you haven't:  http://babywhispererforums.com/index.php?topic=63056.0

tay has given you some good advice:
3- everyday have at least one of the big naps in his own cot (which is usually the afternoon one - 2 hrs). And make sure to keep extending his naptime with pat/shush if he's unsettled
We always tried to do that too.  At your lo's young age it is easiest to get out during S time (so she can sleep in the carseat/stroller/sling/etc) but I always tried to get at least one nap per day in the crib.  Sometimes it worked well, others not so much, but again it did get easier as ds got older.
4- if we're driving somewhere that's going to take more than 45 min we try to fit it that it's on his S time
We always did that too.  In fact, even if it was only 20-30m away I would tend to let him nap in the car, grab myself a coffee, and drive about to let him get a good nap in.  That saved my sanity on more than one occasion! ;)  I tried to plan grocery shopping during nap time too - I would drive around until he fell asleep, then click his carseat into the stroller and get my shopping done.  9 times out of 10 it worked perfectly! :)

I do disagree with one thing though (sorry tay :-\):
DS is 17 weeks and I've found that it's easier to keep to the routine if it's my activity rather than his.
TBH, I think that that contradicts the principles of bw:  giving your lo a consistent, predictable routine and following their cues.  A consistent routine is not a schedule (we're not watching the clock for feed time and nap time, for example), but providing a consistent pattern of eat, activity, sleep based on your lo's hungry cues, sleepy cues, and age-appropriate A times.  To me, basing your lo's day around your planned activities and classes (especially those that are offered at contradicting times) isn't really a routine, kwim? There are times when it's necessary to shuffle things around (a doctor's appointment for example, or a school run if you have 2 los) but with my ds I selected activities that were available during his normal A times.  If it wasn't available at the right time, I didn't do it.  And if he'd had a bad night or a bad nap (meaning that I was going to have to reduce his A time to prevent OT), or was going through a growth spurt and wanting to constantly feed, then I sometimes had to change my plans.  Some of my friends that also had babies accused me of running my life around my ds as I would cancel plans, or schedule coffees and play dates around his naps and feed times.  Those same friends though would complain about their lo crying through a play date, while I rarely had troubles with ds.

I hope that made sense?  (((hugs))) It is tough to get out at this young age but it can be done, and it does get so, so much easier when they're older.

As a side note, I noticed that you said your lo is feeding every couple of hours?  Have you tried to stretch that out at all?  That could be causing your short naps too - snacking, rather than taking full feeds, can cause sleep troubles as their tummies are never really *full*, kwim?  Do you have a post in bfing at all?
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Re: Trouble with EASY...please help!!
« Reply #4 on: March 15, 2010, 16:30:30 pm »

As a side note, I noticed that you said your lo is feeding every couple of hours?  Have you tried to stretch that out at all?  That could be causing your short naps too - snacking, rather than taking full feeds, can cause sleep troubles as their tummies are never really *full*, kwim?  Do you have a post in bfing at all?
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Thanks, Vikki!!  I would love to stretch out DD's feeds, but how do I go about doing that????  At night, she will go for anywhere from 3-5 hours, but during the day, she screams to eat every 1 1/2 to 2 hours.  I got her to go 2 1/2 half this morning, but she was NOT happy.
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Re: Trouble with EASY...please help!!
« Reply #5 on: March 16, 2010, 01:11:04 am »
Stretching feeds out can be tricky but definitely doable :)  Keep in mind too your lo's age - there is a huge growth spurt at 6 weeks, so you might be on the tail end of that which is why she's still feeding so frequently.  For a couple of days keep a record of how often she feeds, one side or both, and how long.  Remember that with bfing you count the time from the beginning of one feed to the beginning of the next.  So, for example, if she feeds at 7am for 1/2 an hour (so 7-730am) and then feeds again at 930 that's actually 2.5h between feeds, kwim?  Once you have an idea of the frequency of her feeds I would be happy to help you stretch them some.  It's just important to keep in mind that you always have to follow cues, especially with ebf babies.  I'll keep an eye out on the breastfeeding board if you want to start a thread there, and then you can keep this one for your naps :)
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