Is it *finally* time for him to move to one nap?! (16.5 months)

[babybarr]

That sounds like a good plan.  I reckon last night after a long nap he obviously needed a long A till bed.  Something to bear in mind for thr future.

let us know how you get on today.

[Roseii]

I am less worried about being pregnant and doing NWs and EWs than having the newborn and doing it

I think I put DD down for her nap too early  She was up at 6.30am and fell asleep at 11.15am but only slept 1.5 hours, so up at 12.45...No idea if she will last the afternoon without falling asleep now 

Good luck let us know how you get on.

x

[MummyToBen]

He slept 10.15-12.05pm so I'll do a 15 minute catnap to get him to a decent bedtime. 

sounds like you might too charli?
xx

[Roseii]

That's great Claire

I might have to, we are going to a musical toddler group this avo, finishes at 3.30pm so I reckon that might tire her out enough to have a catnap in the car...

What time will you put Ben to bed Claire? I never put DD down before 7, generally because DH wouldn't get to see her but he is at footie tonight so I actually have free reign! So not entirely sure. Guess it depends on whether she has a CN...

x

[MummyToBen]

What time will you put Ben to bed Claire?

I'm probably not the best person to ask about bedtimes!  I'm sure I must be a laughing stock on this board because of the ridiculously early bedtimes I sometimes give DS  !!  This week he's had a couple of 5.45pm bedtimes, but those have given us the best nights....then the nights he has later ones he generally wakes up earlier  .  So, depending on when he ends up having his catnap it will probably be about 6.15 due to his EW.  xx

[*Becky*]

you know what works best for your lo Wish I did!!!
bx

[Roseii]

you know what works best for your lo Wish I did!!!
bx

Same here  She hasn't had a catnap but that's quite good cos I think I should be able to get her in bed quite early, I am going to take her up at 6.45pm and see what happens...! She'll probably be ready to start the day at 4am tomorrow!!

Did you do a CN Claire? Good luck for tonight 

[MummyToBen]

No catnap...he was having none of it  !

So super-early night as he's been up since 5.45 with an early nap

x

[MummyToBen]

EUUUGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHH 

He has just started getting majorly majorly upset when I put him down to sleep  .  It started yesterday when I left him in the car with someone he didn't know very well while I popped in a shop, and he thought I'd left him and got SO upset (first time this has happened).  Since then, each nap and bedtime it has taken 40mins+ to get him to sleep as he just screams and screams and cries my name  .  I did gradual withdrawal to get him to go to sleep just, but it's really messing up our days as he's getting more OT.  He did not get to sleep til 6.25pm today - thats 6.5 hours of A time, which combined with his EW is not good!! 

Any suggestions?  I suppose I just need to make sure I allow a bit of extra time for him to settle before his naps. 

[*Liz*]

I think the nap resistance and tears are likely to be OT creeping in their Clare.

Personally I would say it is time for a 2 nap day - short am and long pm and catch him up a bit.

[Roseii]

I was going to say same as Liz, it may well be OT rather than some sort of SA...

Maybe you could try some sort of routine like 2 days with 1 nap followed by 1 day with 2 naps etc, for a few days?

[*Becky*]

Me too. Hugs hun - this is a tough time. Hope he slept ok for you xxx

[MummyToBen]

Thank you ladies

The only thing is - he has behaved in exactly the same for every nap and bedtime since the 'shop' incident, even when I was giving him an early night and then a catnap yesterday - both times when I had specifically given him a shorter A time  . 

Then he was up at 5.30am.....classsic OT, but then that in itself isn't a suprise because he had such a long A time yesterday .  DH did gradual withdrawal with him til 6.30am - but he was in a mess screaming for us again (DS, not DH!). 

So I'm going to see if he'll take a catnap in the car as I don't have any confidence that I'll be able to get him down for a nap early enough in his cot. 

Is gradual withdrawal the best method to use?  I suppose that worked last night, he just got in a complete state when I was doing WIWO (even when stood outside his rooms talking to him).

Thank you, what would I do without you all? 

[babybarr]

Big hugs hun. 

Is gradual withdrawal the best method to use?  I suppose that worked last night, he just got in a complete state when I was doing WIWO (even when stood outside his rooms talking to him).

Think you answered your own question!  GW sounds like it'll work better.

I would just like to play devil's advocate though and say - we get tears and nap refusal with UT and I didn't really know this until doing the 2-1.  If DS is knackered he goes straight to sleep!!  It's incredible how different they can be.

[MummyToBen]

Thanks 

I would just like to play devil's advocate though and say - we get tears and nap refusal with UT and I didn't really know this until doing the 2-1.  If DS is knackered he goes straight to sleep!!  It's incredible how different they can be.

He's definately way OT now - he looks SO rough.  I did 2 hours of WIWO/GW earlier with him screaming hysterically - to the point where I got him out of his cot and sat him on the floor for a moment (he was throwing himself out of my arms and going CRAZY  ), and he head-butted the floor and has now got a carpet burn on his forehead  .  The thing is, he was tired when I started but not OT....but he just got worked up as soon as I left his room - and this continued for the whole time.  I only managed to settle him by giving him a bottle and he fell asleep on me immediately.  I haven't seen him in such a mess before.

He woke after 1hr10 absoluetely shattered - massive purple bags under his eyes etc.

Am going to try for another nap in a while as he obviously needs it - but I'm not looking forward to another ordeal like that!!
xxx