1 nap still not working

[Tweakster]

HI there agree with Laura, I would be aiming for 5 hrs at this point.

[*Jo*]

ok... starting to get a little peeved off with this nonsense... he was asleep at 5 hours 5mins and woke up at 50mins, needed patting, ive patted him back to sleep but he could wake in 10mins or could sleep longer. he did cry out a bit when i put him to bed, he was pretty tired, as soon as i turned the lights off for us to have a cuddle before i pop him into his bed he was yawning, rubbing his eyes and swaying his head, he almost always does that once i turn off the light. so tomorrow aim for 5 hours 15? i dont get it, he can sleep 11-12 hours with no need for me patting... oh hang on hes awake now, wow that was a whole 5 mins....

[alohahellokitty]

I will tell you this whole 2-1 transition seems to be just HELL! Hugs!!!!!!!!!!!!! I sure hope your sanity lasts till you make it to a consistent schedule.

I know this is driving me bonkers too!!

Sometimes it makes me look forward to the days with no naps. No more worries about when to put them down, why they won't stay down exc............

[babybarr]

so tomorrow aim for 5 hours 15?

Yes... In my experience with a crappy napper the 45/50min naps are UT - just not quite tired enough iyswim?

More hugs.  Wish I could be more help.

[Tweakster]

Agree here.  But it depends on the LO.  I mean at the moment Finn is having a ridiculous 7 hrs A time before his 2 hr nap...now I don't suggest you go there of course but I think you can afford to push a bit :-)  Even what you are saying about the patting and he wakes again in minutes, it really seems UT and is probably because he's having long nights.

Hugs Jo, it's rough going.

[*Jo*]

I tried to put him down at 5 hours 15 mins but he fought me so DH had to take him because as soon as I took him he tried to get out of my arms etc but was better for DH, he cried for a bit when he went to bed and we could hear him shuffling and struggling to sleep for 10mins so I think his A time total was 5.5 hours then he woke up at .... 50mins! I've patted him back to sleep but I did try W2S thinking the waking was habitual but doesn't seem to have made difference. And after all that he only slept a total of 1 hour 20mins....... For flips sake!!!

[babybarr]

Have you tried meds before nap?  Long shot I know but worth a try at this stage?  If you think the fighting is cos you've missed the window then drop the A time back.  Fighting sleep for us is UT...

More hugs.  Will he sleep longer in the pushchair?

[*Jo*]

Tried meds, made sure the room is warm etc, I've done everything I can think of to be honest, I just don't know where to go from here, more A time than 5.5 hours??? Really? At this young? And this quickly? He was on 4.5 only just over a month ago, I just don't know anymore. I'm fine with only 1.5 hours in the day if he's sleeping 12 hours through at night but now it's seeming like even that's a struggle to acheive now

[babybarr]

Jo I wonder if you try the 6hr A time and just see - if it backfires then we know it's a no go. If it works then you have your answer.  What do you think?

[*Jo*]

Laura honey im willing to try just about anything now cant do it tomorrow though, he has swimming in the morning and that always tires him out really soon afterwards but will see how we go i will wait a couple of days i think and then take it from there, you ladies have been gold to go through this with me, i feel like such a nuisance, 6 pages just because Caleb wont transition most days! gah! feel like a bit of a whiner to be honest LOL

[babybarr]

Don't be silly!  You've seen my whinging posts so I don't think you have anything to worry about!

These boys are just sent to try us - do you reckon girsl are generally better sleepers by now - there does seem to be fewer girl issues on the toddler board.

Keep me posted anyway.  More hugs your way

[annette.xx]

just checking in to see how its going!

still tough huh?...just thought id chip in on the same lines of what others have said about a little more A time...

im finding that because I have set nap and bedtime that the nap length always varies and have kind of noticed a pattern...

when dd does an EW at 5.30 (very rare) she then has 6 1/2 hrs A until her nap at 12pm but will then usually sleep 2 hrs+ and I have to wake her to keep to my set bedtime of 7!!

when dd wakes earlier say 6am then she has 6 hrs A until her nap at 12pm she will usually take a decent nap of around 1 1/2 to 2 hrs

when she wakes at 6.30 (5 1/2 hr A) she always takes about 1 hr 30 mins and when she wakes nearer to 7 (5 hr A) she always naps about 1 hr 15 mins!...

its a nightmare cos it means on days that she shorter naps she is a bit more testing at bedtime unlike the days when she wakes up early where she takes a good nap and in turn is much easier at bedtime!

Ive learnt that whatever happens im either going to have a hard time in the morning with an EW so early start and long day or after a good morning I end up with a bad bedtime settling!!!

its sooooo hard isnt it! keep trying things and you'll soon get your magic formula (let me know what it is when you do!!)

Annette.xx

[*Jo*]

well maybe theres a bit of SA going on as well or something, i dont know, he wouldnt go to DH for bedtime tonight, started to struggle, cry and fight DH so i took him and did bedtime routine and into bed, he was perfectly fine for me, but then that doesnt explain how he was for naptime today, the complete opposite (except the crying once he was in bed)

has anyone tested tired signs at this age? how reliable are they? maybe i should try looking for those instead?

[Tweakster]

We have some luck with tired signs lately, he starts laying his head down on the floor lol.  You could just follow Caleb for a bit.   Just don't look at the clock and keep him up until he shows you he is really tired. 

[babybarr]

Just don't look at the clock and keep him up until he shows you he is really tired.

And I would emphasise the "really" bit...

DS will often lay on the floor but isn't really *that* tired