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Offline gavinsmum1

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Hi there!
I've got a 16 month old who is slow-as-molasses to make it through to one nap.  We've sort of settled on a routine with the old kink here and there to work out.  Especially when teething!! :P
Here's what it looks like lately:
wake 6:15
nap 12:00-2:00 (could be as short as 1.5 hours or as long as 2)
bedtime 7 or 7:15

My issue is that even with the time change a month ago, he's still waking too early.  Before the time change, he was getting up at 6, then for a week after DLS he was waking at 7  :D, but with teething/illness, he reverted back to a lousy 6 am wake up.  I've got a touchy sleeper who is a VERY patterned sleeper prone to OT if he's pushed to hard.  As it is, I'm leaving him in bed for over an hour in the am because I don't want him yelling and waking his older brother up who sleeps in until 7:30 or 7:45.  How do I go about shifting his nap times and bedtimes an hour later?  Ideally I'd love to see him do:
 
Wake 7
nap 1-3
bedtime 8

What kinds of successes have you BWs had with time shifting?????


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I would push the bt back if he does a good nap - so if he sleeps till 2pm (2hr nap) then do bed at 7.30pm and see if he'll sleep in and then hopefully push the nap back too.
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We WERE starting to get there.  But then total derailment due to teething and illness here too.

Agree with Laura.
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These lo's are determined to wake us up early. ;) LOL!!

If he's very touchy and prone to OT I'd take it a little at a time. I think what Laura said is a good idea. If he gets a good nap then try to push it back a little. My lo is just like yours (from what it sounds like) and when she's ill or teething she goes to bed 6-6:30 b/c her napping is horrid and she's totally exhausted.

But if he's doing good, go for it and push it back!!! Good luck!! Let us know how it goes.
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I haven't had any success with it :( I have settled for this!
Wake 5.30am ahhhh
lift from cot 6am
Nap 11 or 11.30am (depending on what activity we did in the morn, swimming is a def 11am nap!)
Wake 2/2.30pm
Bed 6.30pm
He normally falls asleep by 7pm
He is still taking a really long nap during the day. We tried a later bed time and it didn't work...he still woke up at 5.30am. So we have just accepted it. 6am would be nicer but hey! he goes to bed at 6.30pm and has a long day time nap so I can't complain!

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After a solid year of EWs between 5-5:30, we are finally getting 6/6:30 wakings with a late bedtime.  We did get a 5:40 waking yesterday, but then back to 6:15 today.  Honestly, we just went with a later set nap time and this just translated into a later bedtime.  I had to accept that my LO is only going to sleep 10/10.5 hours per night no matter what and that I was going to lose my time in the evening.  We now have him down at 7:30/7:45 and he is sleeping by 8.  He is still teething and working on his canines, but the EWs aren't happening as much.  I am not quite sure though if developmentally something changed, so this actually worked for us, if he isn't in as much pain as before, or if it is the late bedtime that is working.  But for whatever reason, he is waking at a reasonable hour.

We also got one of those night lights that shift to a sun when it is time to wake up and while I thought he would never get it, he actually does.  I hear him get excited when the sun comes on and then goes from happily playing in his crib, to wanting to get out.  My LO is older than yours though.  But I wanted to add that it has helped us.
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Thanks for the great suggestions!  I was thinking that pushing the nap later would only get me into trouble, but if he's done a good nap, then I'll definitely try to push bedtime gently a little later!


I had such a weird couple of days.  Yesterday looked like this.

wake 6
nap 11:55-12:45  (OT-oops!)
bedtime 7:00 although he was in bed at 6:35)

he was moaning in his sleep at 4:30, which woke me up.  I waited a little bit thinking that teeth were bugging him and finally went in at 5 and gave him a dose of Tylenol while he was sleeping!!

Today
wake 7:10 (woke him!!)
nap 12:45-2:20, but it wasn't the best sleep, some stirring around after the 1 hour mark, but when I went in at 2:20, he was sleeping!
bedtime 7:40

I'm really hoping with this later bedtime that he'll wake a little later.  I'm tempted to do w2s at around 5:30, because he has had such a habitual waking between 6:15 and 6:30 ish that I'm hoping he doesn't do a short night!  Fingers crossed!
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I agree with pushing bedtime later after a good nap too. We have managed to shift a 6.30-7pm bedtime to 7-7.30pm in the last few weeks. He is now waking 6.15-7am rather than anytime from 5.30am (!) Don't know how long it will last.....with my lo if he has done a nap over 1.45 then he can handle 5.5 A time and actually needs it to do a good night. I was always putting him to bed too early.
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Well, our naps have been acceptable if not better, but we haven't had much success pushing the day later.  It seems like if he goes to bed after 7:30, then he just wakes at the same time or even a little earlier, even after a good nap.  As it stands, he's already staying in bed for an hour before I get him for a bottle, and then he goes another 40 minutes until breakfast, so the pushing all the meals, snacks, naptimes a little later is going to be tricky.  That's the technique I used the last time change in the fall to get his bedtime/naptimes a little later.  This kid is so consistent with his wake up being between 6:10 and 6:25. Weird.


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Could something be waking him - next door neighbours car, your alarm clock, your heating coming on etc?
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Our day looks like this:
Wake 5.15am - 5.30am
Lift from cot - 6am
Nap 11 - 11.30am
Sleep 1.30pm - 2pm
Bed 6.30pm

So I know he has a very long nap during the day, but I have tried shortening it with a later bedtime/earlier bedtime.....leaving nap as is and having a later bed time.....still 5.30am every morning PING eyes open! He has black out blinds and white noise in his room....nothing I can do about it!
I am thankful for the evenings on my own with DH.....oh and it is so hot here now that I walk the dog at 5.30am so DH gets up at 6am with DS and gives him breakfast! I guess he will eventually sort things out!
Two days a week he is in Playschool and he doesn't nap until 12.30pm on those days normally till about 2pm/2.30pm ( I have to wake him!) I put him back down again for 6.30pm and even though is morning A time is really really long he still wakes the next day at 5.30am!
Oh and when he goes to bed at 6.30pm he is always asleep by 7pm......most of the time by 6.45pm!


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It seems like if he goes to bed after 7:30, then he just wakes at the same time or even a little earlier, even after a good nap.
Have you tried this for at least a week?  I know some mums are having success with the later bt giving later wake ups but you need to do it for a while.
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Totally agree with pp. We had to do it for a good 7-10 days before we noticed results!




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Here too.  It looks like it might finally be paying off.  Time will tell but it's taking more than 1 or 2 days, that's for sure.
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Okay, we had a good later bedtime of 7:30 last night as he napped an hour 45 yesterday, and today he woke at 6:30.  That's a little better.  He went down for a 2 hour nap this afternoon, so we'll gently push bedtime again tonight.  I've now stretched out his bedtime 3 days now, will keep you all posted.  Thanks for checking in!!  :)