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Re: May need to do a dairy-free trial with DS, help needed
« Reply #30 on: June 08, 2010, 18:12:27 pm »
Forgot to say that the dietician said that if they do test then DS needs to have the problem foods in his system - when someone eats a problem food the body produces anti-bodies to fight against it - so if you cut it out completely these antibodies wont show up on the tests when they look ... (apologies if this isn't the correct medical terms as I get confused easily with medical words but the gist is correct!!!!)
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Re: May need to do a dairy-free trial with DS, help needed
« Reply #31 on: June 11, 2010, 13:59:16 pm »
Ok so we are starting this on the weekend.  What do we do?  Just stop milk period or start with half & half rice milk?  I guess it's better to just pull it from his diet full stop yeah?

We are getting blood draws for iron, IgE & IgA and a referral to an allergist.  But in the meantime it can't hurt to go with a dairy challenge.
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Re: May need to do a dairy-free trial with DS, help needed
« Reply #32 on: June 11, 2010, 14:06:10 pm »
I'd take it out completely. Cold turkey.
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Re: May need to do a dairy-free trial with DS, help needed
« Reply #33 on: June 11, 2010, 15:13:46 pm »
Can someone explain why margarine is contraindicated?  Butter I understand...but marge???
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Re: May need to do a dairy-free trial with DS, help needed
« Reply #34 on: June 11, 2010, 15:18:42 pm »
Most margarines contain milk solids.
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Re: May need to do a dairy-free trial with DS, help needed
« Reply #35 on: June 11, 2010, 15:21:21 pm »
Depends on the kind of margarine, I'd imagine. They're not all just trans-fats; I think some are blends. But many are just hydrogenated vegetable oils. Not an allergy problem, just not good for you. ETA: Anna's right - I knew it was something but couldn't remember what! Thanks Anna! :-*

I think our dairy-allergic friends use Earth Balance, or maybe Smart Balance (they're related companies). I was just on the Earth Balance page looking at their allergy page, and while they address lactose, they don't address casein. HUGE shortcoming in my book! :(

Ah, some more info Googling Earth Balance Casein - looks like it's OK. Found this blog entry too: http://onlysometimesclever.wordpress.com/2008/08/06/a-casein-free-hopefully-success-story/. Anything there ring any bells? There are also some links at the bottom of the blog entry for Casein-free recipes and resources.
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Re: May need to do a dairy-free trial with DS, help needed
« Reply #36 on: June 12, 2010, 19:52:24 pm »
Smart Balance LIGHT is totally dairy free as is at least one of the earth balance products.  Both are low in transfats.  There is a totally dairy free margarine here called Nucoa, which is very high in Transfats, but excellent for baking.  
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Re: May need to do a dairy-free trial with DS, help needed
« Reply #37 on: June 13, 2010, 07:17:54 am »
For baking I use a comination of coconut oil, ghee and macadamia nut oil, seemed to give the best flavour. However not all MPI LOs can tolerate ghee (pure milk fat) so you have to experiment.
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Re: May need to do a dairy-free trial with DS, help needed
« Reply #38 on: June 13, 2010, 11:21:39 am »
If you have a No Frills or Superstore near you we use Celeb lactose free margarine on Dylan's toast. No milk proteins at all!
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Re: May need to do a dairy-free trial with DS, help needed
« Reply #39 on: June 13, 2010, 23:43:34 pm »
Vikki thanks, we do have a No Frills in walking distance. 

We kind of started this weekend, have to say we are going to start a bit slowly and then when we are both off next week and the ILs are here we can take it to the level of zero tolerance. 

This weekend we cut out yogurt and offered other things for breakfast.  We didn't give any cheese either.  And tonight was his first try at vanilla rice milk which he belted back as his bedtime bottle.  I think it tastes like formula actually which is probably why he didn't mind it. 

But now comes the hard part which is to come up with meals etc. that have zero dairy content. 
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Re: May need to do a dairy-free trial with DS, help needed
« Reply #40 on: June 13, 2010, 23:48:25 pm »
As you start cooking from scratch you'll find it a lot easier to eliminate the dairy and soy. Let's face it, neither of them exist naturally in the produce section or the meat section. :) From there it becomes a matter of finding accompaniments without them, and discovering that it's not hard at all to mix up your own Italian dressing in an empty jelly jar to avoid soybean oil or milk solids, and having a selection of ready-made prepared foods for in a pinch (there's at least one Rice-a-Roni that's dairy-free, although I don't know about soy). Pasta you can serve with a wide variety of sauces or the dairy-free fake butter stuff, or include it in soups.

You can do it!  :-*
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Re: May need to do a dairy-free trial with DS, help needed
« Reply #41 on: June 14, 2010, 01:01:27 am »
I've got some good stand-by's that we use for Dylan - some quick, some more work involved. I can send you a message on FB with some if you want, just let me know :)
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Re: May need to do a dairy-free trial with DS, help needed
« Reply #42 on: June 14, 2010, 01:40:23 am »
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Re: May need to do a dairy-free trial with DS, help needed
« Reply #43 on: June 18, 2010, 13:02:57 pm »
Ok so just wondering if his symptoms are getting worse after being off milk & dairy for a week, is that normal?  When would you normally see some results?
Does it take several weeks before you notice any difference at all?
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Re: May need to do a dairy-free trial with DS, help needed
« Reply #44 on: June 18, 2010, 15:28:40 pm »
Takes a while, like 2-3 weeks in some cases, for it all to get out of his system. Also, if you're also starving yeast in the process (no more milk sugar for them to feed on), yeast die-off can cause some intestinal symptoms and some icky feelings; in worst-case it feels like you have the flu for a day.
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