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Re: 15 month old ... lost trust... OT loop
« Reply #60 on: June 29, 2010, 21:01:29 pm »
sounds like a good plan, the car is our "get out of jail free" card for us ;)





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Re: 15 month old ... lost trust... OT loop
« Reply #61 on: June 29, 2010, 22:07:48 pm »
Plan thwarted by DD1 puking in the car.    Luckily, we've trained her to puke in a bag.    She has a tell tale cough and whine that she does before puking.    I keep plastic bags in the car for such occasions.     She gets car sick easily.    We can't take car rides longer than two hours.  If she looks out her window while the car is in motion it sends shooting pains up her head and makes her sick to her stomach.   

I guess its early to bed tonight.     For the record, Marlow would've fallen asleep in the car.    She was sucking on her finger in the car and had sleepy eyes.   

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Re: 15 month old ... lost trust... OT loop
« Reply #62 on: June 29, 2010, 22:21:46 pm »
oh Sharon (((Hugs)))





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Re: 15 month old ... lost trust... OT loop
« Reply #63 on: June 30, 2010, 01:18:18 am »
Oh Sharon,

I just read your entire thread. Sigh...hugs to you and the entire time I'm reading it, I'm thinking "gosh we mind as well have posted our problems together". It's almost exactly the same! My DD is refusing all naps at the moment. She's on strike apparently and then when we go to get her after raising the white flag, she comes out with a great big smile on her face and is just tickled by the fact that she's out. DH likes to say, "baby 230, mommy and daddy 0"....

Honestly, I've been in the same boat, fighting OT, where she wakes up too early in the a.m. to put down for one nap but is so OT and SA she won't take two naps either. She's been standing and crying/whining/moaning for days now every time I put her down for a nap. I finally realized from so many wonderful mommies that I was being too inconsistent. Because I was trying to do so much trial and error, one day I would give her 3 hours A time and the next day it was 4 hours A time. Then, one nap I may let her fight it out for an hour and 30 minutes and the next day get her after 30 minutes. AlohaKitty helped me realize that there was too much inconsistency and since Sophie is SO touchy, all this unpredictability is driving both her and I nuts. She doesn't know what to expect from me.

All along I have been doing WIWO but it wasn't a really consistent version of it and then today out of desperation we tried GW with my husband and she just sang songs to him and talked to him for most of the time!

I obviously dont' have the answer or else I wouldn't be desperate on my own thread but I just wanted to share that tomorrow I"m going to try something different (to create consistency). I know her A time has jumped so I am going to try to give her one nap and if she wakes up early and the one nap falls earlier in the day I will jsut put her down for early BT, since this also helps conquer OT with some extra night sleep. Then, I've decided that I will give her pain meds (just in case), put her down and just do WIWO until she finally gives in and naps because right now, I'll do WIWO until 45 minutes to an hour or hour and fifteen and then go in and get her and it's so obvious that the minute she gets up it's like "ooo mommy came to get me. Awesome!" The problem is, when I wait an hour later hoping that she's more tired, I try putting her down again and she fights it again and tries to "hold out" a bit longer knowing that eventually I will come rescue her out of bed which is what she wants. So it's become this viscious cycle where I keep trying to put her down, go get her, try again until there's been NO sleep at all and it's 5:30 p.m. and we're both absolutely exhausted. I can't go on with no nap days anymore...so hopefully this will help.

Like Wendy put it so well, it's not that she NEEDS me, she just WANTS me. This put things into perspective to me. I haven't left her ever to CIO so she knows that mommy is there. She just prefers NOT to be somewhere else where she can't play with mommy.

I'm praying that tomorrow she will eventually burn out and after a few more days of being consistent she will realize, okay, so mommy means business when it's nap time.

Sorry I'm writing so much on your thread. I guess I'm saying, I completely know where you are coming from and have actually learned a lot from reading your posts. I will let you know how it goes because maybe, if this works (fingers crossed) it may help Marlow!

We will get through this together =) Hugs xxx
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Re: 15 month old ... lost trust... OT loop
« Reply #64 on: June 30, 2010, 02:10:11 am »
Lots of hugs to you too.   It seems we are always going though the same thing at the same time.    I could have written a majority of your post.   I haven't had no nap days but I have had two days with a 40 min nap.   I made a sleep chart on google documents which helps me see all her days condensed.     It also makes it easy to post the link and share it.   

Jo had me realize the same about Marlow wants vs. needs.    I was going in too much.    I just had to leave her alone and really listen to her cries.     I was babying her too much too.     I was holding her too much and giving in and sitting in her room doing GW.   

If I find an answer I'll let you know!

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Re: 15 month old ... lost trust... OT loop
« Reply #65 on: June 30, 2010, 02:36:14 am »
Sharon,

How was GW working? We tried today, which obviously is just one time but she just really played rather than going down. DH sat in there with her for an hour and twenty minutes until finally realizing that she wasn't going to go down. She was singing songs and saying dada for most of the time..
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Re: 15 month old ... lost trust... OT loop
« Reply #66 on: June 30, 2010, 03:10:39 am »
It worked but she knows how to fall asleep all by herself so I'm back to WI/WO. 

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Re: 15 month old ... lost trust... OT loop
« Reply #67 on: June 30, 2010, 03:25:16 am »
Okay, me too. Although, the first time you walked me through WIWO was SO much easier I think because she wasn't truly a toddler yet. LOL. Now that she's older, she's much more of a fighter! She will hold her ground much much longer! Sigh...
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Re: 15 month old ... lost trust... OT loop
« Reply #68 on: June 30, 2010, 13:13:09 pm »
I think its only going to get worse as they get older.   Can you imagine what our strong willed toddlers will be like as kids/teens?    *shudder*

Marlow, by the grace of God, STTN but had an EW.   I went in and comforted her briefly then left her.    I was right next door to her with the video monitor watching.    She cried for a bit then calmed down but never laid down.    After 30 min I finally got her up, so we have been up since 5am.

Going with Wendy's suggestion today and doing 5hr45min A before her first nap.   That puts me at about 11am for a nap.   Hopefully, I can drive her around later today for a CN.    Actually, I hope she has a nap longer than 1.5 hrs.  

Alila is doing better.   She has some prescription anti-nausea medicine left over from the last time she was really sick.    We gave that to her last night and she says she feels better.     She also knows that if she feels better she can go see her grandma today.   She LOVES grandma.

Update: On Wendy's suggestion, I gave her exactly 5h45min A this morning.   C'mon long nap!!!! *fingers crossed*
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Re: 15 month old ... lost trust... OT loop
« Reply #69 on: June 30, 2010, 16:11:35 pm »
Ooo did she go down without a fight?! I'm praying for Sophie to go down without a fight too...Good luck! Keep us posted!
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Re: 15 month old ... lost trust... OT loop
« Reply #70 on: June 30, 2010, 17:28:59 pm »
No fight!     She went right down.   The last time she had 5hr 45min A she slept 1.45min.   So far so good!   We are approaching the 1hr 45min mark now.   I'll let you know how she does.

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Re: 15 month old ... lost trust... OT loop
« Reply #71 on: June 30, 2010, 17:42:47 pm »
Awesome Sharon!! I think I'm realizing now that our LOs' can have this HUGE jump in A time just like that when we least expect it. I'm hoping for a long nap now. Send your long nap vibes my way!!!
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Re: 15 month old ... lost trust... OT loop
« Reply #72 on: June 30, 2010, 18:46:21 pm »
She slept 1.45min exactly but I'm happy with that.   I may try a car ride around 4pm to see if I can get her to take a CN in the car.     What A time are you going to try?   This is a pretty good leap in A time for Marlow.

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Re: 15 month old ... lost trust... OT loop
« Reply #73 on: June 30, 2010, 20:58:12 pm »
Sweet.  Honestly, that is a stellar nap and I think you should ride it at least 5 days before changing anything up.  She may start to elongate it on her own as she realizes this is her only nap time.

Let's not talk about Spirited tweens or teens hey, one day at a time here lol  My head will explode.
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Re: 15 month old ... lost trust... OT loop
« Reply #74 on: June 30, 2010, 21:41:51 pm »
Have just read you thread after posting a similar one myself!!  Glad things are improving for you - Gives me hope!!

Good luck with everything!!

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