Support Thread for 2-1 Nap Transition cont'd pt 3

[<Catherine>]

Usual time again this morning (between 6.30 and 7am, but closer to 7 ) so that's good. Grumpy again today but LOADS of teeth coming through and lots of tantrums - not sure if it's a 'toddler' tantrum thing or a teeth thing, both I suspect. He's now having his nap, coming up to an hour and a half so this is the point where he'll either wake or go on to have a nice long nap again! I'm really hoping for 1 long nap again, it means bedtime can be a little earlier and hopefully wake up tomorrow as usual.

I had also seen that it seems normal to have a mix of 1 nap and 2 nap days.

[nelliestar]

Thats great! Glad today is going well apart from the tantrums and grumps. We are getting tantrums here too lately - not fun, I think ours are toddlerdom and the heat.
Poor oliver - hope he cheers up soon! And hope he has a good long nap today

N xxx

[<Catherine>]

Thank you! I think we're on for the long nap as we've gone past that 1.5 hour mark Yay! My 'me' time begins here....!!

[Khalam's Mama]

Catherine, what time do you do that am nap?

[<Catherine>]

Well it varies as he's not with me all the time, and TBH it doesnt seem to matter as long as it's within 11.30-12.30, 4-5 hours A time. He did just under 2.5 hours yesterday and we had a 13hr night! Not sure how today will go though, had a major screaming session earlier - teeth

[nelliestar]

What a brilliant night's sleep - especially with teeth trouble! xxxxxxx

[<Catherine>]

I know, I'm just waiting for our luck to run out....!!!!! Another 2.5 hour nap today.

[Khalam's Mama]

What sort of A's were your LO's doing when they started the 2-1?

[consmummy]

Hi, I did post on the old thread but not been on here yet.

So we're a mix of 2 and 1 nap days. What determines it is the time D wakes. If it's 6.15-6.30 or beyond then it's a 1 nap day, if he wakes earlier or has been awake in the night (got loads of teeth moving around!) then it's a 2 nap day. I'll lways try him  with 2 naps regardless, drop his pushchair seat back and pull the hood over on the way home from school. But if he's woken at a decent hour then he doesn't need it, just lies there chilling out!

I think this is going to be a looong process here as D has always been an early riser, 5-5.30 was the norm for a long time. Once we get consistent 6.30ish wakeups then we'll be permanently on 1 nap.

[<Catherine>]

It's all gone to pot for us!

[Khalam's Mama]

oh no you were my biggest hope Catherine!

We are just going with the flow a little since nothing I do is helping. i feel like we could be ready for 1 nap if we had longer nights. I am doing W2S to try to get out of these 5am wake ups and after 3 days we have had, 5.20, 5.40 and 6.40 so maybe we are getting somewhere. I keep offering the second nap but sometimes he refuses it and sometimes like yesterday it was only 20mins. Do you guys wake them from nap 1? If so at what point?

[consmummy]

Khalams Mama, I'm guessing you're doing long am and short pm nap? We're doing the opposite, which I find suits us a lot better. A quick 20 mins on the way back from school and he can make i through till about 1pm when he'll then have a long nap.

If you're doing long am, what time is he sleeping till? And if he's sometimes refusing that second nap, maybe it's time to start pushing that first nap out so it's closer to the midde of the day?

[<Catherine>]

We're still getting good nights (no NWs), generally 11 hours, sometimes more, but not as great as they were a couple of weeks ago. But he's not sleeping very long for his nap, now only 45 mins some days which is obviously effecting his wake up and making him very grumpy for the afternoon - he will usually go down for a second nap, but on days I am working this time falls whilst we are in the car, which is a 45 min journey so perfect time for a nap, but he seems to just refuse to sleep in the car these days. But whether he has a second nap or not, it doesnt seems to make much of a difference to his wake up the next day. The best nights were when he was having a 2-3 hour nap.

[Khalam's Mama]

I am doing long am and short pm yes. He has been EW for ages so it he usually naps about 3.5hrs after he gets up but this can be anywhere from 5-7am so nap is variable. I have done a few 1 nap days with early BT but he gets NW instead or aswell as EW so I don't think it is time to switch completely. Toady our day has looked like this so far:
5.30am wu
8.40 nap (He just laid down and slept normally I don't put him up until 3.5hrs A)
10.40 wake up.
4pm nap
Will aim 45min and BT will be 8ish. I try to keep this consistent but 6.45 or 7 if 1 nap.

This last nap is so close to BT but he won't go much earlier. For his long nap he will take 1.5-3 hrs if I let him. I capped at 1.5hrs for a week  or 2 but it didn't make a difference to his nights. He rarely refuses the second nap it is BT and EW that are plagueing us. Any advice welcome.

[consmummy]

Have you tried short am and long pm? I've also kept the nap times fairly rigid-well, we're goverened by school runs anyway and it works for us.

Our day generally goes:

A 6ish

S 9ish- on the way home from school I drop his seat back and see if he needs to nap. He didn't today, but on the days he does I cap it at around 20-30mins.

S 1pm for as long as he needs but I have to be out of the house by 3.05-3.10 for school

BT 7-7.15ish

On a 1 nap day I'll usually get him in bed at more like 12.30-12.45pm as he's really ready for a sleep.

This works for us. Early wakings, I have no idea what to do, we've always had them and just accept it. When he wakes we leave him for as long as poss then when he really starts protesting we bring him in with us and he'll play, sit and chill out, watch tv, etc.