Support Thread for 2-1 Nap Transition cont'd pt 3

[clairebear79]

Yay hooray for the 2hr nap!!!  Hope you get a good night & a lovely WU tomorrow.x

[toffer]

Claire, does your LO not show tired signs? That sounds like a challenge trying to figure ourt when to PD!!

I decided today was the day for our 1st 1 nap day. Just not enough time to fit in 2 anymore, so I fed some early lunch and let him decide when nap time was and to my surprise he went 5:05 A!! He woke at 6:40 so hopefully he goes for a good couple hours nap. His longest A time in evening is 5 hrs, usually I do 4:30. What should I do for BT tonight? I guess it depends on when he wakes?
I usually bath at 6:45 and he is asleep at 8, so not sure what to do tonight....
I really want to avoid to EW business....
Sabs, I know you used to get a 10.5 hr sleep, has that gotten longer on 1 nap now? I am scared to do BT at 6:30 and have him wake for the day at 5!

[clairebear79]

toffer - we don't get much by way of tired signs!  Of late, we've had no eye rubbing, fussing or anything.  We only ever get yawns in the car.  All he seems to do is start to lose coordination & his grey bags under his eyes (that to me seem to be there permanently these days) become more pronounced.    He's been going quite hyper & excitable lately too, and lots of tantrums if he can't have exactly what he wants.  I am just unsure if he is not showing the usual tired signs b/c he is OT or if he's just not tired at all!

does your LO show his tired signs loud & clear??? So your first 1 nap day!  Hope its a good one!  IIWM I'd keep day to 12 or 12.5hrs at absolute most, of course depending on how well he naps.  I think most people say the naps & nights extend once on 1 nap but it can take a week or 2 for this to happen.  I live in hope as we are stuck on 1h 45 naps ATM!!!

[toffer]

Well, he woke at 1:25 into his  nap. It is now 1:15 here, so 6:30 BT ?
He yawns, rubs eyes and gets fussy, so lots of sleep signs. Though lately he is super clingy and needs way more holding before I can PD. He screams and pops up instantly if I PD too soon. Several teeth popping right now though.

[toffer]

Ended up sleeping at 7:25. So my bub did a 5:05 1st A then a 6:15!!! No wonder he was so hard to get to do 2 naps with a 4 hr A time, LOL Gosh I hope he has a good night and it works out ok....maybe I was scared for no reason.

For those bubs that EW and NW in the 2-1 can I ask if they did that before on 2 naps?
 or was it a new thing once you started the 2-1?

[Lemonthyme]

Yesterday 1 nap at home 11:15-12:30 and 7:15pm - 5:40am, no wake ups.  The best sleep we've had for some time here for my nearly 15 month old! 

We'll get there!

[clairebear79]

For those bubs that EW and NW in the 2-1 can I ask if they did that before on 2 naps?

Yes yes yes!  Ours started around 5.5months when we dropped NF & needed to lose the CN.  And its continued ever since!!!!

Hope you both had good wakeups following your 1 nap days?

We had a brief WU at 4.30 & 5.15 & then he was up for the day at 6am - 11.5hrs sleep.  Great - however he is VERY tired this morning, falling over, laying his head on the floor etc etc, so I actually decided to PD at 9.30am.  He was asleep after 3h 40 A time with no complaints.  I think my conclusion from this is that my boy is not ready for 1 nap yet.  So I'm pulling it all back a bit & we'll see how he goes.

[scucci1979]

we got a 6am wu. Not sure if it was b/c her sister was calling out for me, so that was an 11hr night. I need to shift her wu time but can't b/c her nap always has to be extended and is not long enough. Still waiting for this nap to get longer. 

[newmama12]

Ladies, I'm so frustrated. Seems no matter what I do, I still can't get him to have a decent WU. He can nap for 2 hours or 3 hours and we still get a 5-5:15am WU. He doesn't seem to do more than 10, maybe 10.5 at night. I know he's capable, b/c he has done it in the past. I am soooo tired of waking at 5am. LOL! Woe is me, huh?!
But, really, his clock seems so stubborn and stuck at 5am. Do I just keep trucking along, pushing out that AM nap and cutting it? Then we'll end up with an early BT for awhile, which would still result in an EW, wouldn't it?

[scucci1979]

Cyndie, I found that going on one nap has helped Alyssa sleep 11-11.5hrs, but of course they get OT and the night begins to get short again.

So I put her down at 11:45am and she fell asleep on the bottle. She didn't show any tired signs all morning until I walked into her room. I guess I will be extending this nap. Why oh why can't this girl at least sleep 1.5hours on her own.

[clairebear79]

Cyndie - forgive me if I have already asked you this, but have you ever tried W2S   He wakes at pretty much the same time every day right?  So may be habitual waking rather than routine related?  Just wondered if this might help you extend your nights a bit.  I never tried it for our EW b/c DS always woke at differing times so I'd never know when to go in to him.

Sabs - if you do a slightly shorter AM A time will she still take a decent nap?  I'm just wondering if she could be a tad OT & this is why she is waking between sleep cycles & you are having to AP her back to sleep   Only saying this b/c O hasn't hardly shown any tired signs the last few days & he's been doing 5hr A times & then today he has utterly crashed out.  So I know it was way too much for him.  In fact I think his tired signs are changing now he is becoming a toddler & instead of the fussing & crying/screaming we got when he was younger, he seems to be going all hyper & super excitable & loses coordination.

Ladies - Our day has been a catch up day.  Oliver is VERY VERY tired.  I guess this proves we are not ready for 1 nap days yet.

Wake: 6am
Nap:   9.35 - 11.40   A = 3h 35   S = 2h 05 (he still had HUGE bags & looked tired even after a 2hr nap!)
CN:    3.35 - 4.20     A = 3h 55   S = 45min (I woke him or who knows how long he'd have slept?!)
BT:    7.15               A = 2h 55                 (teensy bit worried this was too short - what do you think )

I'm hoping & praying that the extra day sleep will have helped him catch up, but won't take from his night sleep tonight.  He could really do with a decent long sleep (PLEASE!!!)

[Lemonthyme]

I wanted to give you all a bit of hope.  My serial EW this morning woke at 5:40am which I'm prepared to accept tbh but then stayed in his cot till 6am chattering away!!!!  Mummy lie in!

[clairebear79]

Yay how lovely!!!!  I love laying & listening to DS chattering - its so cute!!!

Ladies, we've had another unintended 1 nap day again due to PM nap refusal:

Wake: 5.30am (10h 15 night sleep - not sure if too much day sleep or PM nap too late caused this)
Nap:  10.15 - 12.15     A = 4h 45m   S = 2h
BT:     6.30                A = 6h 15m

I tried for a CN - walked him in the stroller for 1.5hours this afternoon, around 4pm he yawned twice, shook his head & had that glazed look - but didn't fall asleep & got all fussy instead.

Ladies, he's doing the A times & lovely long nap that we need for a 1 nap day, but its just all too early in the AM.  If he then refuses a CN we can't get to a decent BT without OT.   How do we proceed   Do I just need to push the 1 nap days in the hopes he gets used to it & sleeps a consistently long night?  Do I need to do a much earlier BT to keep his day to 12 or 12.5hrs max?  How do I get that nap shifted out to start at 12 when he keeps waking early every few days

[toffer]

Claire, if I had to guess I would say you need a later bedtime to give you a later W/U, but not sure how you can get there with such an early W/U. Does he sleep in some mornings so you can try it?

[scucci1979]

It is a toughie Claire. I really don't know too.

Well, we got a 6:15am wu put her down at 11:45am and she slept until 2:10pm, but I had to AP her back to sleep a few times. This entire week i had to AP the last half of her nap.  Put her down at 7:15pm as I am trying to shift her day, but I don't think this will work. She is yapping away up there ATM.