Support Thread for 2-1 Nap Transition cont'd pt 3

[~Karen~]

Aww bless him Kim.  I'd put him down nice and early and try and get two good naps in after a night like that.

We had a one nap day as he just wan't going to sleep in the pm.  Although I left him at home with dh while I went shopping and he forgot what time I said to put him down.  When I called and said I was on way Lewis was still chatting in his cot so I told dh to get him up as it was getting too late for a nap.  He went straight down at 6pm.  Selfishly I didn't want him going to bed too late tonight as I want to go to fat club!

[sianie]

Back to catch-up later......

[*Ali*]

Ooo lots of new faces welcome.

[inoella]

great to see all the new faces - the more the merrier!

kim - unfortunately we've had lots of similar nights - not quite as bad a 3 hours. but we also never get a sleep in when there's a late bt or bad nw - no such luck. i also thot it might be SA or teething.

today i found out E has an ear infection and - without going into detail - it seems like she's had it for a while. so now i'm second guessing all my thots on why the bad naps etc. for the past week. they like to keep us guessing huh? you'd think with being sick she would sleep more but not my baby - 3 half hour naps. that's it. awake now an hour after bt and dh is with her.

[ccaawc]

I don't think my dd can comfortably do one nap day with only 10hrs nite just yet.

yesterday's was our first attempt, extended her 1st A to 5hr15, and she fell asleep while I was changing her nappy. Woke 40min into her nap and went back to sleep with a little prompt from me, OT I guess, and she only sleeps 1.5 total.

we went out in the late afternoon and she couldn't help falling asleep in the car with a piece of bread in her mouth, at 6:30...for 5-10min then we reached home.

BT was 8:30, took her 30min to fall asleep so I guess it was that 10min nap.

last nite was better than the previous 2 naps UT nite, only one NW at 2:55, for 10-15mins and she was back to sleep, no crying. woke 6:45 this morning.

So today I am giving her a break, she is ready for nap at 4:15A, I guess I'll give her short am and long pm as we are staying in. I hope this is the right move.

[~Karen~]

CC - It will be very hard for your dd to go to one nap if she's only sleeping 10 hours at night.  My ds1 was a 10 hour night sleeper and it took till 18 months to get him onto one nap.  It's a lot easier to get them onto one nap if they'll sleep a good 12 hours at night. 

[spodnic]

Well that goes for my LO then! 10.5hrs at night, with a 5.30am wake up and 2-3 NWs at the mo. Still don't know what the real deal is since she's been ill for 6 weeks.

So I've got the evening to myself and guess who's playing in the cot supposed to be asleep for the night?
 

[lulunut]

Amy-when did your LO stop the EW or how did you help it?

Kim-sorry to hear about your night  I hope things get better for you tonight. Hugs!

Cc-  it was a good try.  I just went for it with my Lo one day and now we get some 1 nap days and some 3 nap days!!!  It may take a while but it's hopeful!

Last night he was down at 6:45 and up at 5:30.  DD was already up at 5am (OT) so I took him downstairs to get up and he flopped into my shoulder and fell asleep!!  I AP him until DH had to get ready for work at 6:30.  He was down at 11:30 for nap and slept 1hr 40 min alone and 30 min with me.  So I will early BT tonight and hope for 11 hours!!  Maybe form my DD too!!

[ccaawc]

Thanks,

I have no problem letting dd nap twice during the day, it is easier to manage actually, but my concern is she sleeping an hr less when she is having 2 naps.

like yesterday, she napped 1x30min, 1x1.5, nite sleep 9:18-6:20 (9 hrs , 11hrs total )
whereas on one nap day she naps 1.5, nite sleep 8:15-6:45 (10.5 hrs, 12 hrs total )

last nite she called out 2 to 3 times but didn't get up nor needed me to intervene, so do u call that stttn? why do they call out in their sleep anyway?

[~Karen~]

We're the same CC.  I only gave him one nap yesterday and it was only 1.5 hours but then he slept 13 hours at night.  On two nap days he probably averages around 13 hours total. 

Lulu - It got better around 14 months with lots of wi/wo or I'd just ignore him in the mornings when he was shouting (not crying) for me.  Then we took him travelling for 7 months from 17 months old so that was a bit all over the place!  We started getting some ew again for a while when he was 2.5 and started using a light on a timer which has been a life saver!  He's a great sleeper now and rarely wakes up before 7am. 

[lulunut]

CC-I understand your concern.  I similar sleep times on 2 nap days too.  We are in the same boat!  Mine cries out sometimes, I think he is just dreaming!  I don't usually go in until he cries more.

Karen-Thanks!  It's nice to know that there will be some hope.  My DD has now learned that my DS screaming is the wake time so she is now on 5am wake!!  Even on days when he sleeps later she gets up at 5 because she has now used to doing it!!  It's so frustrating trying to get 2 to sleep later!!  I have to get one of those lights on a timer.  It may work for her once I get him to sleep later and stop screaming when he does!!!

Last night he went to bed at 6:15 and woke at 4:20.  He was in and out until I finally picked him up at 5am.  He slept on me until 7am!!  Little bugger!!  But, DD was up at 5, so DH wasn't happy!!  I am going to try to push the day and go for later BT tonight.  Hopefully that will help him sleep later.  It just seems that 9-10 hrs is all he will do on his own!!

I have some Y time now so have a great day with your LO's ladies!! Good luck tonight!

[*Ali*]

Cadan cries out occasionally but I think it is in his sleep. Unless he gets up, it goes on more than 30 seconds or the crying escalates to an I need you cry I don't need to intervene. I would consider that STTN. Even adults talk or wake in the night. I get up to use the loo at night even. But I would consider all that to be STTN. i.e. they aren't up for any length of time.
I think it is completely normal to have shorter nights iwth 2 naps. Most LOs take longer nights when they move to 1 nap to make up for the tiredness that builds from the long A times they have with 1 nap.

[~Karen~]

When Lewis cries out in sleep it's usually a sign of a bit of OT.  Like Cadan he quickly goes back to sleep without me having to drag myself out of bed! 

We did a one nap day today but he was tired and trying to fall asleep in the car on the way to my Mum's.  It was 1130am so I really didn't want him to as might have ended up with it being the only nap anyway and only short due to it being in the car.  He's also staying at my Mum's for 4 nights in April (have I mentioned I'm going to Dubai with Amy  ) so I want him to have a few more naps there to get used to the room a bit more.  He was fine today and went straight down.  At Christmas when we stayed there though he wasn't happy about the room as he hadn't stayed for ages but hopefully there's some familiarity with the room now and it'll be fine in April. 

[ccaawc]

Thanks ladies,

lulu- we were up at 4:30 this morning too, with a 7:30 BT!

early BT becos yesterday's naps all went wrong, first was an OT 40min nap becos I extend her 1st A too much, then, pm nap was in the car so it was only 30mins, she was yawning by 6:30.

luckily, After 4:30 WU, she went back to sleep after a feed in 30mins and no crying, otherwise I don't know what to do with her 4:30 in the morning. she slept till 7:15 this morning.

so I guess, like Karen said, my dd is not moving to one nap just yet, mayb I should keep shortening one of the nap until it is non-existence or until she refuses it.

I am letting her to have long am this morning, so if pm nap goes wrong, at least she has 1.5hr nap and oh, 1st A is only 4 hr ( she fights it for 10mins but it is giving me more than 1hr nap at the moment, really, can't stretch her !st A to 5 without over-tiring her )

seems we are still a long way from one nap......

[sianie]

Karen, v. jealous about your Dubai trip....we have some friends there & keep meaning to go & visit!

Ellis also cries out in his sleep & he's also started 'talking' in his sleep...the other morning I heard E at around 5am & it sounded like he was awake, babbling away....I popped my head into his room & he was fast asleep murmuring away!!

I agree that if they are OT/OS they are more likely to cry out.

CC - glad your LO went back to sleep, 4.30am is not a good time to be awake!