Just me... again...

[alohahellokitty]

Yes I agree with the early bt's. I do CRAZY early ones with Anna-Li when she's OT. Her normal non-ot, non-teething, non-ill bedtime is 7-7:30.

But when she's OT I go around 5:30-6pm. She sleeps until her normal wake up time regardless! Maybe you could do a couple this coming weekend to try to catch him up a bit?

Will he pass out in a stroller or car seat? Could you get a short cn in him in the afternoon?

Good luck!

[koe2moe]

extra big hugs from me!! :*

[LucySol]

Hey hun!!! only just seen this new thread!!!

would he take 2 naps? just for a day or so,just to catch him up a bit?or would that be a disaster?

How long are his NW now? do you still leave him to it?

[babybarr]

2 naps just don't work... the only way it'd work is if the catnap was at 4.30pm or something and then he'd never fall asleep at a reasonable hour.

We were at ILs yesterday and that's an hour's drive both ways - morning we travelled at around 9.30am, he *may* have slept in the car if we'd been driving say at 10.30am instead.  We travelled home at 3.30pm (he'd had 45mins nap at 11.40am) but at 5pm he was laying on the living room floor...

Some days I wished I'd AP'd him a lot more as a little baby

Lucy - his NWs are still long - I have no idea how long anymore as I just leave him unless he really calls for me.  It's just the settling at night and now EWs that I can't take on top of everything else now!

[LizzieN]

Hugs lovelyxx

[Tweakster]

Laura are you going to be back on routine now i.e. not going to ILs etc?  I think the early bedtimes are helping in the sense that from what you have written, he is not fighting you on them and is going down faster?  Am I reading that right?  I think sticking with these early bedtimes are the way forward for now.

[katie80]

I agree with Wendy re the routine you posted.  It did seem like the closer to 6:30 pm bedtime the faster he settled.

I also wondered what would happen if you tried the nap at 11 am a little more consistently.  I know it's sort of a bad time, but from the same routine you posted, it may be a shorter morning A would help wipe out some OT along with the early bedtime.  I know he's not much of a napper, but do you think the nap would ever extend if he started getting a little more rested? 

[babybarr]

Yesterday -
Nap 11.30 (mum put him down at 11.20 but it took him 10mins to settle - this is unusual) nap was 1hr 10mins!
Bed asleep within mins at about 6.45pm (DH was in late some accident on the way home and this meant DS wasn't in bed as early as I wanted)
He then woke pretty much every hour till about 11pm - this for us *usually* means he's coming down with something but I think he was having some sort of continuous nightmare iyswim?

He has always preferred 6.30pm bt to 7pm bt but I keep being told that 6.30pm bt for a 2yr old is too early

I know he's not much of a napper, but do you think the nap would ever extend if he started getting a little more rested?

We can live in hope! 

[LizzieN]

I don't think it's too early sweetie, he has a LOT of sleep to catch up on (and so do you for that matter, not to mention some "adult" time).  I hope he isn't getting sick lovely xx

[Tweakster]

It's not too early if it's what is working for him...and you.  If he's up at night then he needs a longer night in bed to maximize his consolidated sleep.  Those other people don't have to live in your house. 

Did your mum get the impression he was UT there or already/still OT?  I know it's hard when someone else is doing it.  I would say try the nap earlier.  I think it can't hurt at this stage.

Sending healthy vibes, no getting sick little man!

[LizzieN]

My mum always puts Dyllan down earlier than I would and it works well for her, think she is a bit more intuitive than I am, and less invested in the nap actually happening too for that matter xx

[Fiver]

6.30pm may be considered early by some, but it's the norm in this house as I know my boy gets tired and needs as much sleep as he can get as he refuses to rest during the day - and he's now 3yo.  Guessing those who are saying it's too early aren't BWers??

[babybarr]

My mum always puts Dyllan down earlier than I would and it works well for her, think she is a bit more intuitive than I am, and less invested in the nap actually happening too for that matter xx

This is the same with my mum. 

She's just told me he slept 1hr 15mins - but I'm not sure what time he went down.  I did suggest nearer to 11am but I guess it depends what they did this morning!

Did your mum get the impression he was UT there or already/still OT?

I'm not sure tbh.  Longer nap settling time *usually* is UT for us as he tends to be out like a light for naps - but my boy is not UT I think we ALL know that!!

[LucySol]

just sticking my 2p in here!

isnt that nap length the 'norm' for Oliver?hasnt he always done about that since going onto the 1 nap? just thinking all this talk about OT/UT,if i remember rightly he has always done this? i might be wrong?
As you know this is about the same as D,i think you will find its the bedtime 'time' that is going to help matters xxx

[babybarr]

Yup - it tends to be the norm.  We occasionally get 1.5hrs, we would only rarely get 2hrs if we pushed him really hard but this often backfires too!

Lucy - nap / bed time thoughts?  We do struggle to get him to do a much later nap as he is so tired and then that *can* interfere with bt.