Just me... again...

[LucySol]

well i personally wouldnt do too early but thats just me

Do you think he is OT? i know the norm is OT on that length of nap but not us and maybe not Oliver? what makes you think he is OT? behaviour...whats that like? what about teeth? where is he on that?


i think it might be worth deciding on some times and sticking with them for a week and see how that works.

Did you try the lights on a timer?

i know the main thought here is OT and im not dissagreeing with this but just looking at another angle.when we had messing about at bedtime is was behavioural..lots of calling back,messing about,when i got firmer it dissapeared.just something to think about.Again EW with D were habit/ behavioural and the lights stopped it straightaway.
im not saying this is what oliver is doing but just giving my thoughts as you asked!!

just for the record,been as they are so alike with sleep,tho not the NW, we do  7am,12.30 nap which lasts from 1 hr to 1.5 tho usually somewhere in the middle if we get a 1.15 or less we do a 7pm bedtime or a 7.30 if its a better nap.set times were another thing that sorted us out.

just something to chew on!!!
 

[Tweakster]

I also don't think he's OT per se, just chronically getting less overall sleep which I think is a bit different - at some point it becomes the norm/average for him right?  And he gets used to it.  It may affect him some days more than others, depending on what he's going through at the time.  Despite his health challenges he's thriving right?  I mean everything is developmentally progressing as it should?  I really just think he needs a longer night in bed until this night waking issue is sorted, or he grows out, whatever the case may be.  Any word from the wristband?

The only reason I think earlier nap is because you don't want to push bedtime out, so really to not have him fight bedtime from having too late a nap, you need an early-ish nap.

As Lucy says, stuff to chew on :-)

[babybarr]

Ok here goes...
Lucy I agree - nap length is immaterial here for us.  I don't believe his naps are particularly OT or UT just him.  I think he is chronically OT from many many many long NWs and bad nights.  He spends so much time just laying down and he tires easily.  He then on the other end gets super hyper - not just normal kiddie stuff either!
Teeth just 2nd year molars to come in - I would say at least another month or more off.

We have done 11.30am nap and 6.30/7pm bt for months now.  I think the messing around is too late to bed - early again tonight and settled quickly.

Despite his health challenges he's thriving right?  I mean everything is developmentally progressing as it should?

Yes - although a little behind in some areas - nothing major.

Haven't heard from sleep clinic yet - will chase tomorrow.

[babybarr]

Still haven't heard from the sleep clinic... I'm guessing they're avoiding me

I feel a bit down about it all today

[babybarr]

Update... Sleep nurse called  and I missed it, rang her back but she's now gone on annual leave and I'll just have to wait another week for the formal report.  I'm stressed now!

[LucySol]

oh no!!!! is there no one else you can talk to?

[momtonb&ab]

how frustrating for you!

[Tweakster]

Arrgh sorry Laura :-(  What was the day like yesterday?  Are the early bedtimes still making for a smoother bedtime?

So many (((hugs)))

[babybarr]

oh no!!!! is there no one else you can talk to?

The other nurse I spoke to on the phone was really cagey... I'm guessing I that mum that no-one wants to have a conversation with

The doctor won't be in till next week - so I'll wait and see what the report says.  I expect something like "Oliver is getting adequate sleep in 24hrs and Mum needs to stop wasting our time and money"  Sorry I know I should try and be positive it's just this has been going on so long and no-one really seems to care that he doesn't do a full nights sleep 

Wendy - earlier beds are def better than later ones so *trying* to stick with those when we can.

[katie80]

I'm guessing I that mum that no-one wants to have a conversation with

Oh, Laura, I'm so sorry you feel that way.     You are doing your best for little O, and they should respect that! 

no-one really seems to care that he doesn't do a full nights sleep 

And do they not understand that he's tired during the day and laying down on the floor frequently?  I'm saying GRRR for you. 

Offering what I can, which is ((hugs)), love, and prayer.     And hoping you get a more helpful report!

[LizzieN]

Oh for goodness sakes, I am so ANGRY that these people won't just help, there is NOTHING NOTHING wrong with trying to help your LO with a problem and his sleep is a problem.  He has a condition and he needs to sleep to keep healthy.  Sweetie, don't let these people get you down...

Good luck with the doctor sweetie, keep us posted!  We are sending vibes for you xx

Much love and hugs
Lizzie

[babybarr]

Thank you girls for your very kind words.   DS is still unsettled, last night was really bad - again. 

He is generally settling to bed a bit quicker which is the main thing - although tonight was about 25mins (still quite a long time for him)

[Tweakster]

Laura I know it's no consolation for everything you are going through but he's ABSOLUTELY GORGEOUS!  Is that you in the photo?  Then so are you :-) 

[LizzieN]

Totally agree with pp

[babybarr]

Yes it's me and thank you