NW's wont stop

[LucySol]

ok,so how about doing GW with him?is that something you want to start now? im  not sure id be willing to but maybe it might help both of you.
He gets some extra reassurance from his mummy when he seems to need it and you feel you are doing what he needs, which is you,and you both get something from it.

Afterall,Bw is all about following your lo.xxxx

[~Emma~]

Well last night. Hmmmmm.....he woke at 1am only WI/WO once. He then woke at 3.30am and took about 30mins of WI/WO to get back to sleep. DH did it, I feel so bad as he has to work but I couldn't handle a protracted night with it.

 I'm not sure about GW, its not something I've ever done with Brodie for anything! Everything has been cold turkey, get it outta the way style! I dont have the patience personally and tbh knowing Brodie's personality he will pick up bad habits/props from it. I know he would. Once you do something once with this kid he remembers it kwim? If I start GW and say start lying next to his bed at night i can guarantee that will be harder to break, he'll want me there every night. I'll be a hostage. I undersatnd why you suggested it but its just not our cup of tea. Whtever I'm doing though is clearly not working. 

 Woke for the day just before 6am. He seems in ok mood this morning. Dont know what to do with naps today. Any ideas?

[babybarr]

Nap 11.30am?  I reckon for as long as he'll sleep and then bedtime accordingly?

I know what you mean about GW - it would def be the same here too!  I think your wiwo sounds like it's working.  I would stick with that (or your DH) if you can for the next few days or so.

Are you sure there are no teeth or other illness?

[~Emma~]

He is just fine during the day which leads me to think its def not teeth. I medicated last night at bed time just in case. I just feel bad for DH having to do it, he gets up at 5.30am for work every day as it is and works over a 12 hour day, he must be so tired. Brodie just seems to settle better for him than me at the moment though.

 Will go for 11.30am nap today and split lunch at both sides of the nap. We have a viewing on the house tonight at 6pm so early bedtime not an option today.

[babybarr]

Brodie just seems to settle better for him than me at the moment though.

Probably cos your DH can pick him up and cuddle him without a bump in the way lol!

It does sound like he's anxious about the changes that have been going on and are about to happen.  I would try to do the wiwo and see what happens.  (((HUGS))) to you.

[LucySol]

i completely understand bout the GW i couldnt do it with Daisy either.just a thought if it was something you had done before.

id go for 11.30 too and let him nap for as long as he wants to.

Good luck with the viewing xx

[Tweakster]

These guys are like little bundles of raw nerves and they pick up on everything.  The little things that we think are incidental and that we can block out, their brains can't do yet.  They are taking in EVERYTHING - sensory overload.  So he's picking up on things and certainly that his mommy's shape has changed too :-) 

Have you read Playful Parenting?  It has a great section on what someone was talking about on here with filling up his cup.  There is a little 5 minute fill up game where you start at his toes and work your way up to his head with a big kiss on his head...then you give him a love egg by breaking the love egg on top of his head and letting the love yolk go down his head and hair (using your hand you spread it down his head).  It sounds like such a simple little thing but really I think it's worth so much to these little guys. 

[~Emma~]

 Well we are still struggling here. He wakes once before midnight and then again in the early hours. For the waking before midnight last night I managed to not even go into the room, I just told him to go to sleep from through the door! 

 The MOTN waking is the killer though, it has only been one for the last 2 nights though so I guess thats progress and last night I just went into him once and he went back to sleep.

 Still dont know what to make of them though. He has always been pretty good at regulating himself when he gets OT. He can throw out 13 hour nights to make up for lost sleep sometimes so I am really not thinking its OT.

 

[LucySol]

i think you may just have to go with it for now if you dont think its OT or pain? He just seems to need to know you are there? Do you have a monitor you could speak to him thru instead of getting out of bed?

[*Becky*]

Hugs Emma. I think Liz went through this with Jacob just before her DD was born. It does sound to me like a developmental phase tbh. Like lucy it seems he just needs to know you are there.
Recently Henry has been getting really scared of loud noises and stuff and he comes running for me shouting 'hug hug' so I have been telling him to find his me which is his muslin and he has been doing it. Not that I don't want a hug but trying to get him to take comfort from something else in case I am not there iykwim.
Maybe you could talk to your DS about hugging his lovely if he wakes in the night. Sounds a bit mad now I have written it but it def helps Henry. He is very verbal though and understands a lot.
It might help?

[babybarr]

HUGS Emma, you must be really struggling being pregnant and having disrupted sleep.  Could B sleep with something of yours - a nightshirt or something?  I remember taking my mum's nightie to bed when I knew she was out but it helped me. 

I like Becky's idea too.  My DS doesn't have a lovey but I'll tell him to suck his thumb... maybe that's a bad habit to get into oops!

[~Emma~]

 This is just horrendous. I am starting to think it MUST be teeth, I dont know what else it could be. He wont let me look in his mouth though.

 Yesterday he had a 2.5 hour nap, bed for 7 asleep by 7.15. Awesome! He woke at 11 and I went in and just told him to go to sleep which he did. He was then awake ALOT between 2 and the morning. Stop start crying alot of the time so I'd get up to him and he'd stop, alot of the time I didn't even make it to his door. I'm not sure about what to do in that situation, its almost like a mantra the way it stops and starts but the actual cry is awful. It really must be pain, I cant think that anything else would make him this upset.

 I am so tired and apprehensive i just dont know what to do. I'll use ALL your wonderful suggestion, thanks for listening and chiming in with your ideas I really appreciate it.

 
 

[Tweakster]

Finn does exactly that, and we have always chalked it up to discomfort otherwise we don't really hear from him at night.  Early in the morning yes, but at night - no.  I bet they are shifting and making him uncomfy - poor kid, poor momma!

[babybarr]

Give meds, and if he wakes - that way you can rule it out (or in!)

Good luck

[~Emma~]

OK, so last night he sttn for the first time in about a month, not even an EW! I had so much sleepy dust in my eyes this morning I could barely open them! The thing is we are going to visit family tomorrow, only for 1 night though so hoping to get back on track soon enough afterwards. I think it was perhaps a mix of teeth moving abut and general upheaval in the house. That kid is so sensitive to change, bless his wee heart.

 Ladies, give me some of those famous BW vibes that the storm has passed will ya! Thanks for all the input and support.