need nap help! 18 months old

[*Jo*]

He was already tired and losing it at 8am, it's now 9.30am. I don't know if he was hurting, I gave him nurofen at 10.30 and again at 3am so I figured that wouldve sorted it but I just don't know anymore with him

[Tweakster]

Frankly on a day like that I would just put him back down and wing the day the best you can.  He's got to be exceedingly tired, as you guys probably are too.  You all need a bit of rest.

[alohahellokitty]

Jo,

I know when Anna's really suffering she just runs around in utter exhaustion from being in OTville too long. I give her as MANY opportunities to rest as possible. She will ONLY take one crib nap a day PERIOD. So once I see she's running near adrenaline, I just put her down no matter the A time. THen I attempt a Apop nap later if necessary. And with baby lo this doesn't always happen and we go with a early bt.

For us its a huge cycle until that tooth pops through. Its terrible behavior, exhaustion exc........

Its NOT pretty.

I'm exhausted and overwhelmed as she is too. Motrin helps take the edge off but doesn't 'clear' up the behavior, fussing, exhaustion, SA, NW'ings, EW'ings exc........... It can help or lessen but doesn't for sure get rid of it.

Like I said before with as slow as she goes with teething, I've stopped asking God to speed it up (because that's NOT happening obviously) and now asking him to just help us survive until its over.

I've been at my wits end soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo many times!

So HUGE HUGE HUGE HUGE HUGE (((((((((((((hugs)))))))))))))))

Hang in there!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[*Jo*]

ok, we ended up with a 30min nap. when i looked in his mouth afterwards its clear there is a third canine pushing through right now, his cheeks are red and his hands are in his mouth. SO, now that weve established there is pain and discomfort, im gonna go back to patting until hes through it, It may sound like foolishness and inconsistancy but I know hes a good sleeper so for him to not respond to three days of Wi/Wo means something else is going on and I need to listen to that.

Liana - I was praying real hard at 3.30am that God would take away any discomfort or pain!! lol but as the natural progession of teeth comes through its clear to me I just have to go through what other Mums go through with teething. You are right, I am asking God to be my strength in all of this.

I actually have a night off tonight, Im going over to a friends house for drinks and a girly night and Im gonna stay the night there, so no NW's for me!!! yahoo!! that thought alone helps me to get through today

[*Jo*]

Oh im stuffed! I just walked him for 50mins in the stroller hoping he would fall asleep, he cried most of the way, fell asleep near the end for 3 mins, then cried and fell asleep for 2 mins then cried and wouldnt go back to sleep!! he looks absolutely exhausted, his eyes are red and around his eyes its purple. He looks like he hasnt slept in a month! So this tooth and OT are really affecting him and I dont know how to get him out of it, ive tried APOP and its not working. DH tried for an hour this morning to get him back to sleep but had to get him up for lunch. so he had a nap from 10.30-11am. Hes mega hungry all the time, this morning he ate two biscuits, had his big bowl of oats (more than what i can eat) and two peices of toast!!!! Yikes thats alot of food!!! Dh said "i thought hes not supposed to be hungry when teething?" but I dont know...

the big question is how do I get this boy to sleep?

[Tweakster]

Maybe he's also hit a growth spurt?  That would make him extra tired as well.

[babybarr]

Now don't shoot me.... he is clearly tired yes, but all your efforts to apop aren't working.  I *wonder* if you just put him back on his routine (maybe with a marginally earlier nap and bedtime) and ride with it for a few days to see if he'll then at least start napping more consistently and then he'll get a bit less OT.  I worry that otherwise you're gonna end up with 30min nap in the morning and nothing till bed?  Just my thoughts though

[caz2107]

How about a nice big bottle/cup of warm milk before nap? I've used that trick a few times when been in desperate need of getting a DS off to sleep xx

[*Becky*]

I agree with Laura, I think it is def worth a try. That and meds, meds meds!

[*Jo*]

Laura, im gonna do just that, thanks for that! Im gonna make naptime 12pm. he apparantly slept 12 hours, woke twice but put himself back to sleep, up at 5.20am.... but im gonna do a 12 naptime heres hoping!!!

[*Jo*]

OH MY FREAKING GOODNESS!!! its 12.30 and hes still screaming his head off!!! Ive been doing WI/WO and its still not working! NOTHING WORKS!! its nap refusal every single day!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I want to SCREAM!

[*Jo*]

Ok I really need some help PLEASE!!! In the middle of WI/WO Caleb threw such a tantrum that he smacked his jaw on the cot rail, flinging his head back so i had to stop WI/WO and get him out to check on him because he was hurt. Once I saw everything was ok I just screamed at Caleb, threw him at his father and slammed the door on both of them, then i pounded on the walls and screamed! this is total nap refusal every day, then when he does nap its 30 mins then because hes been up since 5am I have to put him down by 5pm which means hes up at 5am the very latest the next day.

I am NOT coping! It doesnt matter what i do, nothing works anymore, not the patting, not the driving in teh car or walking in the stroller, not WI/WO just NOTHING and I dont know what to do!!!

Is it possible hes giving up teh nap altogether>?? I dont know, I just dont know, Im a mess thats just about to fall off the edge right now. the last time i felt this bad I was pretty close to CIO

[alohahellokitty]

OMG! I'm sooooooo sorry!

Well Caleb, what's up? Wish we could get in these lo's heads!

I know how feel! At your wits end! Anna-Li is cutting a new canine and driving me beyond bonkers. I feel like a terrible mother who can't stand her child ATM!

How is his behavior (other than the refusal of naps)?

What if you tried a full day of naps/bt's based on cues instead of A times? Have you tried that?

[*Jo*]

He's happy as Larry apart from the sleep issue, I mean his tolerance for things is lower but he's actually fine while he's up. DH wants to try tired signs etc tomorrow, I just feel perhaps they are unreliable  due to OT but he feels we are stretching him too far.
So it's now 4.30pm and he's slept 10mins since 5am we ended up driving him round to get him to sleep but he woke up as soon as the car stopped and wouldn't go back to sleep. I feel hopeless that anything is going to work at all! I mean this can't be normal right?

[*Jo*]

im sitting here crying my eyes out, its 6.50pm, he went to bed at 6.15pm (due to being out at an appt) cried for a little bit then fell asleep, then woke up at 6.40 and hasnt stopped. No matter what i do i cant get him back to sleep. I get that hes in pain (he was saying "ow, ow" before bedtime and had his fingers in his mouth) I tried patting him because Wi/Wo obviously doesnt work, he just lay there quietly for 10mins, every now and then he would shuffle to make sure im still htere, then i leave and he just starts up again. There is just NO SLEEP happening in this house! Im at my wits end, i feel like im just losing it.

My legs hurt from walking him in the stroller for an hour the other day to try and get him to nap (which he didnt!) my back hurts due to a horrid bed i slept on last night, i cant keep this up!!! Even gradual withdrawal wont work because he gets upset with me just leaving my hand on his back

FFS WHOEVER TOOK MY BOY JUST GIVE HIM BACK!