Desperate for some sleep, 7.5mo NWs and EWs, please help us!!

[sianie]

Hey Z! Good to hear from you...really glad things have improved, yay!!

DD is definitely a better sleeper than DS, 'tho who knows if it's gender related!! 

Your DS's naps sound really similar to Ellis's....his AM nap is usually pretty consistent & does around 1.5hrs & his PM nap is usually 45mins/1hr!

How old is your DS now? What time does he nap out of interest? x

[zebstiredmum]

Hi Sianie

I seem to have lost my ticker - DS is 10 days away from 9 months old now - I can't believe it!  The last 3 months have flown by!!  The last week or so I think DS has been waking around 6.45, although some days I hear a little noise from him around 6.15 but then he goes quiet again, so I don't know if he's quietly playing or back to sleep.  He has his first nap around 9.45/10am and his second nap at 2.30pm, although he can hang on till 3.30pm if we're out and about.  He usually goes to bed at 7pm, sometimes a bit later, depending on what time he has his afternoon nap.

I really hope this good sleep lasts!  I'm only just getting over my insomnia (caused by the regular NWs) 

[zebstiredmum]

Oh - my ticker is still there! 

[sianie]

Sorry, that's me not looking properly, lol! x

[zebstiredmum]

I couldn't see it myself when I looked first time though!

[jackman]

Hi ladies!! Thank you all for the support. Hugs to everyone.

Z - we've missed you!! So good to hear from you and glad to know that your lo has made it thru to the other side. No NWs or EWs and great naps is everyone's ideal solution and I would just like to have DS STTN consistently. I too fed DS last night as it was the only thing to settle him (I think he was genuinely hungry) and hope that he doesn't come to expect it again as I worked too hard to rid of the night feedings. Our lo's are very close in age. My DS will turn 9mo this Sunday. It's hard to imagine where all the time has gone.

S - our set naps have been around 9:30am and 2:30pm, tho the first nap has been good since DS wakes at 5:30am. So if we get our EWs sorted, I'm wondering if nap #1 will be around 9:45 or 10am similar to you and Z. Also if we are out and about DS can hang until 3:30pm similar to Z's lo.

I just put DS down for nap #2 (it's 2pm on the west coast US). Crossing fingers that this helps him with his OT. And like you S, I don't remember it being this difficult with DD (altho I worked FT and my mom cared for her). I do think it has to do with boys just not being good sleepers where as my DD can sleep thru anything, even her DB screaming his head off! LOL. So Huds Mom - I feel for you because it was hard juggling a FT job with a lo (can't imagine working when lo doesn't sleep at night and has multiple NWs and EWs), but at least my DD slept! I'll be where you are soon as I'm starting to think about going back to work. If that happens anytime soon, we'll need to support one another thru that as well!

Before all this craziness, I was letting DS take a short am nap and long pm nap to see if it would help him settle for BT at night. I think Buntybear had mentioned something about 2.5hrs of daytime sleep instead of 3 thinking our lo's were sleeping too much. Well I must have done something very wrong or it was just too much with everything else that is happening with him as our nights have gotten progressively worse since the weaning of night feedings. It's so up and down....

Crossing fingers and toes for everyone to have great night sleep and naps.....

[sianie]

lol! I agree! We had a full blown air display here last week with jet's etc going really low right over our house & Megan didn't flinch at all during her nap!

Well, I'm off to bed.....hope you all have good rest of the day/night! x

[jackman]

Well our day ended on a better note than the last two nights. Just put DS down for bed before 8pm, in fact before 6:30pm. He was sooo tired all day, OT for sure! Let's hope for STTN, but not holding my breath for a wake up after 5:30am. Maybe DS will surprise me??

DS slept for 1hr20min (nap #2) and I had an A time of 3hrs to BT. DS settled very easily and drank his BT bottle easier than the last few nights. S - I tried your suggestion of ibuprofen, wonder if that helped us! Thx.

BTW, I started a new post for my DS' current issues, so you ladies out there (S, Z, H and BBear) follow along as I couldn't live without some conversation with all of you as we figure out our lo's! Not sure if this will work, but here is the link:
http://babywhispererforums.com/index.php?topic=178200.msg2019939#msg2019939

[Buntybear]

Hey was me toying with idea of too much DT sleep. Not that we 3 hours anyway. he got barely 1 on Sat and STTN!

[jackman]

BB - I think your theory is still right. I just need to find that magical number of DT sleep to get him to STTN. Hope I didn't make it sound like it was your fault and that is why my DS has had difficulties. Sorry if that is how it sounded.

We made some progress last night. No EWs, woke at 6:30am but had 2 NWs. If it isn't one, it's the other.

[sianie]

Oh J! You can't win! 

Ellis seems to be doing around 2.5hrs daytime sleep at the mo & that seems to be working with him STTN! How have things been today?

[zebstiredmum]

Hi J - sorry to hear you are still having problems. I hope your LO comes through this soon.  DS had 2 good naps today - 1.5 hrs and 1 hour - but last 2 days we were out and about for his 2nd nap and he only sleeps for about 30 mins in his pram, so I think today he was on catch up.  So our magic nap number seems to be 2 - 2.5 hours too.

Glad to hear your BTs have got better again though. 

[jackman]

Hi S&Z - it's definitely teeth. Jack is drooling and when he does wake at night, he is screaming!!! The ibuprofen is helping much more than the tylenol. Thx again S.

Good to know about the amt of DT sleep both of your lo's are doing. Jack went down for his first nap at 10am and woke 1hr20min later. I'm nervous about trying to play with the A time to get him to sleep 1.5hrs. I should prob just leave it? He is getting ready for his 2nd nap, which I plan for 2:30pm. Hoping he sleeps for at least an hour if not 1hr10min. Then BT at least 3hrs once he wakes from nap #2.

I think we will just have to ride this out until something breaks thru those gums. UGH! And I bet once things seem better (crossing fingers and toes that they do), my in-laws will be here for two week visit (arrive Sun) and everything will go to pot again due to OS!!!

I have one last question for either of you (gonna sound funny) - how do you get the 'Thank You' on your profile under the 'Showing Appreciation'? I notice I'm the only one that doesn't have it. And how does it work? S - it says you have 7. I guess I want all you ladies to know how much I appreciate you!! LOL! Silly me, I know....

How is Ellis today S? Z - your lo ok at night still?

 

[sianie]

Hi!

Glad the ibuprofen is working! Definitely the best meds for teeth! Are you also using teething gel &/or teething salts too?

Ellis is ok thanks....trying to get back on track with set nap times after his cold threw everything off! Think I'm going to do 1st nap at 10am & hope he does up to 1.5hrs & then do 2nd nap at 2.15pm/2.30pm for hopefully an hour. He definitely does better with an early BT (around 6.30pm/6.45pm) & tends to do 11.5hrs-ish, so I need to keep his daytime naps around 2-2.5hrs!

If I were you, now you know it's teeth & you're medicating then I'd maybe try again with set A-times/nap times for a couple of days to see if that helps?

Re: 'Thank You' bit.....if you click on the 'Thank You' you should add to the number of thank you's on the persons profile!

[jackman]

Well yesterday was horrible! Since my parents left, it was a first where I had to take DS with me to drop off DD at nursery. We had an EW at 5am and he fell asleep at 8am on way. I had to wake him so I could walk DD into nursery so he had a 20-30min CN. I thought for sure he would be so tired and go down at the usual set nap time of 9:30am, but he refused until 11:15am. Unfortunately, I had to wake him again after an hour to pick up DD from nursery. And here is the kicker -  he refused any more napping and had an A time of 6hr15min until BT. Yes, you heard me right, 6hr15min. Needless to say he was OT!! Had 2NWs and EW at 5:30am.

I think it is a combo of things S - teething, milestones and the 2-1 transition. I'm gonna just have to take the next couple of days to let DS recover from OT. I will still keep to the set nap times, but will not cap any of the naps. Max DT sleep at 3hrs and hope he gets back to normal. UGH, the last A time to BT is really throwing me for a loop and I know it is the culprit for Jack's OT/UT cycle. He just doesn't settle as easily as he does for his naps.

Thanks for listening.