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Four and a half month old with at least three wakings per night
« on: September 29, 2010, 20:17:23 pm »
Hi,

I need some help to deal with night-wakings in my 19 week old baby girl. Most nights she is waking three times between her 10.30pm dreamfeed and morning. The first waking (often between 1-2am) is the most difficult to deal with and often lasts up to two hours, and ends with me feeding her the 3am feed. Sometimes she settles after the feed, sometimes not.

Some background:

We have had her on a routine since two weeks old, but we originally started with the Gina Ford routines. These did not work for our baby and we found that they were not only too rigid, but also expected too much, too early. My daughter has only recently been able to stay awake for two hours at a time, and even then she is often cranky and fractious by the time I put her down. But I found that if I put her down too early she was waking up to 7 times each night.  :-\

We've had lots of problems with feeding, and she is currently not gaining weight at a healthy rate. She is 19 weeks old and is only just over 5kg despite being 3.5kg at birth. So we had to start supplementing formula in the evenings, but I still give her breast milk for all other feeds. Since birth she has never breastfed for more than about 6 minutes at a time, and only from one side, and if I try to make her eat more, she screams and arches her back. So I have been pumping and feeding her from a bottle, which means she eats more but not really enough (100mL per bottle or thereabouts). This is why I'm not attempting to drop the night feeds yet.

I believe she is suffering from reflux, and we are waiting on an appointment to get her tested for this. In the meantime I have propped up her cot at one end and I hold her upright after feeding. This seems to have helped a bit.

She goes to bed with a dummy, but spits it out after she is drifting off. We do use it through the night to settle her, and again she usually spits it out once she's drifting off. I haven't been able to wean her off swaddling yet (she uses a miracle blanket), and the times that I have put her down in a sleeping bag or half-swaddled, she wakes constantly and flails her arms around and scratches her head and face. This means her arms aren't free for her to suck her fingers to self soothe, even though she likes to do this through the day. She can sleep in a sleeping bag if she co-sleeps with me for her first nap of the day, but it is still always a short one of no more than 40 minutes.

Here is the routine we aim for, although it is often different. The evening bedtime routine is always consistent, however.

6am wake up
E – breastfeed (usually only lasts 5 minutes or less)
A – Quiet play and then some lullabies
S – 7-7.15am to 8am in sleeping bag in bed with mum

A – Time in bouncy chair or on playmat (a bit of tummy time)
E – 9am (breast milk from a bottle)
A – Playing with mum and then wind-down
S – 10am – 11.30am

A – Nappy and clothing change
E – 12noon (breast milk from a bottle)
A – Ride in the stroller or carrier
S – 1.30 – 3pm

E – 3pm (breast milk from a bottle)
A – Time in bouncy chair, baby gym or playmat, then cuddles with mum and wind-down
S – 4.30 – 5.10pm

A – Low key playing with daddy, bath at 6pm
E – 6.15pm (formula from a bottle)
S – Asleep by 6.30pm (NOTE: We do AES at this time as a leftover from the Gina Ford routines, and it has always worked so we didn't want to change it)

DF – 10.30 or 11pm
DF – around 2.30 or 3am

Can someone help me with the night wakings? I am very unsure how to deal with them, as she hates being rolled onto her side for shh/pat (I usually just pat her shoulder, which is less and less effective the later into the night it is - sometimes we have sat by her cot patting for over an hour). Also, she doesn't really cry when she wakes up, she shouts. I have tried leaving her to shout (in case I was attending to her too soon) but it always escalates to desperate yelling and eventually crying. I feel that leaving her to shout is the same as leaving her to cry it out. She's just not a very crying baby. The sound she makes is more like a very loud “UH! UH!” with some whimpering, sobbing kind of sounds in between if I don't respond.

Sorry this is so long. I hope someone can help me!
Zoë


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Re: Four and a half month old with at least three wakings per night
« Reply #1 on: September 30, 2010, 02:44:45 am »
Screaming and arching her back...absolutely reflux! Get her on meds ASAP and I bet she will do a complete 180 with the feeds. My baby peaked at 4 months with her reflux...didn't officially diagnose until then actually. After 2 doses of meds she was a new baby!! Until you get her on prescription meds try giving her Mylanta (2.5 ml) right before you feed her. It might help. It seems like it will be hard to fix wakings until you get the reflux taken care of. Are the night wakings at different times? I suspect she is hungry and trying to make up for the calories she is lacking during all of her night wakings. I would feed her every time until the reflux is fixed and she has normal feeds during the day. I think your poor little baby is hungry and in pain! The night wakings might fix themselves after you get her on reflux meds but I wouldn't even try anything until then...you are dealing with health issues, not waking issues IMO. Good luck and please keep me posted!

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Re: Four and a half month old with at least three wakings per night
« Reply #2 on: September 30, 2010, 19:55:16 pm »
Thanks for your response. I think it probably has a lot to do with the reflux too, but also wanted some feedback on our routine, just in case there is something there that I'm missing.

We're trying hard to get an appointment to get the reflux diagnosed, but it hasn't been easy (the system here is a bit convoluted) and we can't get over-the-counter antacids for babies here in Norway, but I will ask a friend who is travelling to the UK on the weekend if he can pick me up some Mylanta, so thanks for that suggestion.

I don't think she's waking up hungry though, as she's often not interested in feeding during the night. However, it could be attacks of acid that are hurting her. It has been better since we propped up the bed, but still not great.

I'll keep you posted on our progress.
Zoë


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Re: Four and a half month old with at least three wakings per night
« Reply #3 on: October 01, 2010, 00:21:24 am »
Good luck! You could possibly try having her sleep on her side too...I have heard that could help. I put my baby on her side early because it helped with the shush/pat so I don't really have a point of comparison to them being on her back, but it could be worth a shot. Just be sure to use a sleep positioner or rolled up blanket/towel to keep her from rolling onto her belly. And for the Mylanta, make sure it is regular strength, not extra. I hope she gets some relief soon!