Thanks everyone, will keep persevering. Thought I was the only one who had a little one who hates the car. Had only heard of people taking kids out in car to settle them! My DS used to fall asleep almost straight away, still does sometimes, but not this one! Also screams to the point of making herself ill. I wondered if putting her in the front so she could see me would make a difference, but worry that she would be too much of a distraction for me driving. Have just bought a spiral thing with dangly toys to put on handle to amuse her, will try anything! Have a bebe confort loola pram, with windoo carrycot on chassis at moment. Should maybe change it to pushchair as it can recline and rearface, might help, thanks.