Anyone Want To Talk About the 2-1 Transition? Thread #13

[~Karen~]

CC - Same age as Lewis.  He'll be 1 on the 5th Feb. 

[kimmbba]

  It's 5:30 and we're up!  He had to go to bed early last night.  Our day:

6:30 up
10 nap for 1 hour
3:30 tried to APOP a nap, with no luck
6 BT

I'm pretty sure we have some OT things going on, but maybe teeth??  I can never tell, but I will say he's really not drooling too much.  With the molars do they drool as much?

In the last three days we've had lots of NW, pm nap refusal, EW, general crabby/clingy boy.  Not that it would make my tiredness any better but having DH gone for the next 5 weeks (I thought it was 4, but I miscalculated!!) makes me dread figuring this out on my own.  I just have to face today as a new day, and it HAS to be a two nap day today. 

I'll also say, that after many weeks of sleeping at night it makes it that much harder to keep waking up!!  Good thing I'm not BF anymore so I can just load up on some coffee this morning!

[ccaawc]

Ayla is 2 days older than Lewis birthday on the 3rd!

can someone tell me if I want to try a one nap day, how should I do it? should I gradually shorten the am nap until it is gone and then just pull the pm nap forward? Or do I push the am nap until it starts closer to mid-day?

I have this feeling that she wants longer A after the short nap even she is sleepy and her A time before bed is increasing in a super fast rate, however, her first A is not measuring up. what is the best plan to move her to one nap? Or should I stick to this short am/long pm (although having to AP the pm one) for as long as the nite is intact?

[kimmbba]

CC, for us it was stretching out the first A as Ethan was refusing to nap in the afternoon either way.  I think you have to go for whatever will work best for your LO.  So if she can handle a longer A in the morning, try stretching that one out.  I think in BW book there's more info on that

[sherry lynn]

Just a gentle reminder that after being in bed at 6, 5:30 is not an EW

Daylene - how long has she been doing 4.5 hours A time. If it's been awhile I would def. try to increase that first A time to see what it gets you. That would also help push out bedtime.
Then, hopefully she will sleep a little less at night and transfer some of that sleep to the day. I think you were on to something when you mentioned that she might be getting most of the sleep at night.

[Mama2C]

Lovelylily - I put him down at 6:15 and he was up twice, each time for 1hr+, first time 1.5hrs after BT and he was wide awake and playing and second time at 4am crying and in pain - a molar is coming through we discovered.
But he is definitely ready for longer A times. Thanks so much for your advice. I am going to try a 1 nap routine for a few days and see how it goes.

[bug_blues70]

cc - what does your routine look like now?

Jacki - you could also try waking her up a 1/2 hr earlier than normal and trade some night for day. That would increase her morning atime and keep naptime the same, and you'd still have 13 hr nights.

Hugs Kim! Sorry it's been so rough! Does he still go to the sitters two times a week to at least give you somewhat of a break?

[LovelyLilyandJack]

Mama2C - good luck with increasing your A time. 

I still can't believe how quickly Lily decreased the amount of sleep she needs.  She woke at 6am today, and I thought was tired from yesterday so gave her her milk and put her back to bed to see what would happen.  She fell asleep at 7 and I woke her at 7.30.  Come nap time at 12.30, she only slept for 45/50 mins - the half hour nap at 7 obviously totally ruined her main nap.  We've had that before when she napped for 5 minutes one morning.  So lesson learned - 2 naps no longer work at all, no matter how early or short the first one!  To be fair, she didn't seem at all tired before her nap this afternoon, but you never know, do you?!  We've had to go for an early BT as she's been up over 5 hours alredy on a 45 min nap, so I hope WU isn't too early tomorrow...

[bug_blues70]

Good luck with WU time tomorrow, LL!! I think Ellen's ready for longer A too... I hope!! Yesterday she played til 4:05 atime and today she fell asleep at 3:45 but had a 40 min nap. Now she's a tad cranky and I just hope she goes down easy for her 2nd nap cuz I don't want to have to fight her!!

[~Lori~]

Ugh, this transition is TOUGH and I'm sorry so many are having a hard time.

Someone mentioned possibly "teething" as well, and that is what we are dealing with here, as well as trying to transition to 1 nap, so we have a tired, cranky boy, lol.

We've been doing just 1 nap days for the past 2 days.  Yesterday, Tanner only slept 1.5 hrs.  Today, he is still sleeping and it's almost 2 hrs.  He is SOOO tired in the morning before his nap and I kind of feel like I have to put on an entertainment act for him so he doesn't melt down, lol.

But I do have to say, I like 1 nap better...we had been doing a short am nap (15 min) and a long pm nap for a long time now, and I felt that my day revolved around getting him to sleep.  Not fun.  He is still taking 2 naps at the babysitters, but that is because we wake him up at 6, and he normally sleeps to 7:30.

[Lola's Mum]

Hugs Kim. I really feel for you. DP is away in far east for 2 weeks and lm finding it tough. 5 weeks must be really hard. Hope you've got other people to help out. It's the evening and nights that l find hard.

We had a shocking night last night. DD woke at 12.15, 1am, 2am, 3am and a few times after bt l was past looking at the time. The pattern looks like OT maybe. I dnt knw why as it was just like recent days that have gone fine. Although she has a bit of a cold nothing major. She has 5 teeth coming through but they've all cut through so l thought the worst was over. Kim, lve not noticed as much drooling with molars but there's been no nap refusal. If anything shorter a times.

Id been really hoping for a good nite yday as had afternoon out in London for my mum's bday today. Well, had a bit of a crazy day. Somehow put Lola down an hour early. Cldnt believe it. Thought it had totally wrecked the day's routine but she slept for 2.5 hrs! She must have been tired. This afternoon l was trying to get her to nap after 4 hrs bt in london there were too many lights, too much noise for her to switch off. She eventually slept after 5 hrs A time for 30 mins. She usually does 2.5 hour A time after 30min nap. I really didnt know what to do as she had v long a time. She went down at 2hrs 10mins and has been restless since. I fear OT but really need a decent night's sleep. Would you treat the a time after 30 min nap normally or would u have cut it as the previous a was an hour longer than normal? Hope the night brings good sleep for everyone. zzzzzzz

[kimmbba]

ANOTHER yuck day!  up at 5:30, was not ready for a nap until 10:15, slept for 1 hour, and then up for 8 hours until BT!!!!  I tried to APOP a nap at 4, 4.5, 5 hours and he literally was pushing his milk away.  He has never refused milk, ever.  After all of that, fed him dinner and he ate like a pig.  I guess he was hungry and wasn't having just milk!

I don't know what's going on with him, but I pray to GOD that we both sleep better tonight.  I'm tired and crabby, and even had a little bit of a cry   Totally rediculous, but I was thinking about maybe he does miss his dad, and I was feeling bad that I couldn't explain it to him...and then I cried.  I need to sleep...I'm overly emotional.

[ccaawc]

kim- {{{hugs}}} don't be too hard on yrself, I feel stress too when dh is away, but hopefully yr lo sleeps well at nite so u can take a rest too.

Megan- My current Easy looks like this:
WU 6:30
A 3hr45
nap 10:15-10:45
A 3hr15
nap 2:00-3:30
A 5hr
BT 8:30

For the 1st A, she starts yawning 2hr into her A but I keep her up until 10 regardless when she wake up. she fights a little when I put her down today, I don't know if it is OT or just doesn't want to leave her toys or UT.  

I woke her after 30min and she was grumpy, clearly unhappy about being woken up.

Yesterday was similar, I had to AP the pm nap( didn't want it to start any later than 2 so she can have 1.5hr) woke her at 3:30.

She handled the 5 hr A before BT very well, no signs of OT and didn't crash on BF before bed. STTN 3 nites in a row since starting this routine.

Should I stick to this for much longer or her fighting both naps is a sign that is ready to move to one nap?  

[lilly_kitt]

I had another bad night (not we as hubs was on nights) so far i've counted 6 teeth on the way through.  Medicated before he went down and was out like a light, then woke a few times just screaming out.  When he started crying i went in and re-medicated and gave him some milk to re-settle.  He took all a 8oz bottle ?? Today he woke at 7.30, so i think its a 1 nap day today.

I wish these babies came with manuals..

x

[~Karen~]

We appear to be having some success (although don't want to talk too soon)!  Yesterday he had a 1.5 hour am nap and a 20 min pm nap (which I AP'd in the sling as we were down at my Mum's and he wouldn't go down in the cot there).  So was up from that 410pm and went to straight to bed at 715pm and sttn till 630am.  We're out at a party today which doesn't start till 4pm but is an hour away so I'll do long nap again this morning and short nap can be in car on way to party so that should hopefully work out.  Actually, I'm thinking about going with long am nap and short pm nap as that means when he goes down in the mornings the other two are at school so I actually get 1.5 hours to actually get some stuff done!

CC - After trying to do one nap for a few days and ending up with a very OT baby I'd say stick with the two naps as long as possible! 

Kim - Hugs.  Hope you had a good night