Anyone Want To Talk About the 2-1 Transition? Thread #13

[bug_blues70]

one question though, do u let them nap longer or do u wake them as usual? I am more nervous of UT NW than OT cos her UT NW are 2 hrs long and involve a lot of crying.

i totally agree - ut is worse!! I try not to let her sleep more than her max DT sleep even while catching up b/c imo, ns is more important than ds, kwim?

Quick question- DS only slept 10 hrs last night although he sttn.  Should I let him nap longer so he gets his 13 hrs?  I had been capping his naps so he only got 2 hrs of day sleep.  At 2.5 hrs he was waking 2-3x per night.

personally, I wouldn't let him nap extra long. Ellen occasionally has 10 hr nights and i don't try to compensate at all for it or it'll just throw us off even more.

[timmysmommy]

Thanks Megan!  He went down after 3 hr A time, slept for 40 min, was cranky so I put him back to sleep.  Slept about 2 hrs total before I woke him.  Tried to get him down for a catnap but he wouldn't go so he had an 8 hr A time before bed.  Went down without a fuss.  I may just start moving to one nap as he is so much more rested after a 2 hr nap- and I get more done.  He can go 4-5 hrs of A time in AM especially if we are out.  I'll be toying with it this week.  This guy is not a sleeper.  My MIL said DH dropped all naps by 2, and DH still doesn't need much sleep.  I think DS is following in his daddy's footsteps.

[~Lori~]

Okay, so the past 3 days we've been back on 2 naps...which means a 15 minute catnap in the morning, and then a LONG pm nap.  He has been SO much more pleasant than the 1 nap days.  But I fear he'll be on 2 naps forever...

[ccaawc]

Thanks Megan,

Last nite was a nightmare, Lo cried out 5 times in 2 hrs after BT at 7:40. Then woke at 4am and mantra cried for a long time until 5ish. She didn't want me though, turned away when I stroke her face so I was just lying next to her cot, listening to her cry.

she woke at 7, so 10 hrs nite it was.

This morning I let her have long am nap as  I didn't have the heart to wake her at 30min, she slept 1.5

pm nap was a bit late, she was put down 3 times but didn't want to sleep until 3:50, I woke her at 4:20, she cried (she doesn't normally)

tonite BT at 7:30 so I hope she gets all her OT cleared and I can go back to the short am, long pm and STTN routine.

Lesson learned, never have two major outings back to back and make sure she has at least one decent nap each day.

[~Karen~]

at least one decent nap each day

That's what I try and do.  Short nap in sling/car if out and about and then long one at home.  Usually works out quite well. 

[lilly_kitt]

Hiya

Quick question, I cut short Ty's am nap this morning as we had to be out.  So woke him after 45 mins (at 11), at 2.20 he's gone back down for his pm.  Shall I just let him sleep as much as he wants or wake at 4, he usually has a 7 bedtime.

Thanks
Sarah
x

[~Karen~]

Yeah wake at 4 for a 7 bedtime.  If you want to let him sleep just push bedtime back a bit.

[rozza]

Oh no... 4.30 wake up then finally got him back to sleep at 6.... Sob. Will let you know how naps went when I get home from work. Xxx

[lilybug25]

We had a 6:10am wu, I know that she work up for hunger as she didn't eat lunch or dinner just snacked so we had a nw at 2am as well, so a 11 hr night. I am just going to put her down for one nap today and do a early bt, DH said she drank her whole cup of milk and eat all her breakfast so we are off to a good start with food today!!!

[sherry lynn]

We are trying to cut the AM nap, it's not working. Hopefully we will figure it out soon.

[ccaawc]

sherry- what do u mean when u say cutting am nap is not working for u?

Sarah - agree with Karen, I'll opt for capping nap at 4 too!

Karen - so the nite is good when u have either long am or pm and it doesn't matter which one? cos i was doing long pm and it worked well, but it is more constricting and it is almost impossible to go out with this routine, so I am thinking, if I can do long am when we need to go out but long pm if we can stay home all day, will that work? The only thing is I am afraid of pm nap refusal with a long am then we have 8 hrs A before bed time.

I hope the OT is cleared now, as dd STTN last nite finally with a 7:20 BT and 6:20 WU, 11 hrs that is very rare for us. But her first A is short this morning, only 3hrs15 and she went down like a dream. I thought she can do longer A with such a long nite, or mayb she is still tired but not OT?

[bug_blues70]

cc - it usually takes ellen a day or two extra of short atimes to recover from serious ot - your lo is still probably catching up.

[ccaawc]

Megan, I think you are right.

I was waking her up at 45min, she woke, I picked her up, and she fell back asleep in my arms which has never happened before, once she's up, she's up. So I let her sleep some more, making that a long am nap.

[EloysH]

ok can I jump in here...  K has refused his arvo nap 3 days in a row now.  He just seems to agitated to sleep he plays and plays in his cot.  He is teething but not cutting the tooth yet.

His routine
6:30am wake
10am nap - 11:30am
3-4pm try for a nap not showing normal yawning tired signs, is more hyper and agitated. Stays in cot 40 mins.
Bed 6:30pm


Is it time to try a 45 min morning nap?  I am scared stiff he will only get 45 mins sleep for the whole day!

[spodnic]

EloysH
Nothing filled me with more horror than considering curtailing ANY naps at first. But, with a 45min or 1hr am nap I *usually* now get a better pm nap, if not it's at least spaced right for a better bedtime. I still only get 10.5hrs at night but at least the 2nd nap is not a 30min OT nightmare and morning wake ups are improving. My DD doesn't show any reliable signs of tiredness for her pm nap so I have to clockwatch, even then it's not an exact science.

I would maybe wake after 1hr, then take an hour off your normal 2nd A time and start wind down then? Eg nap 10-11 then start wind down at 2pm.

What does anyone else think?