Anyone Want To Talk About the 2-1 Transition? Thread #13

[Buntybear]

Eloise, I wouldn't have thought Kai would refuse the pm nap after a short am nap. My worry, and why I haven't done it with olly, is getting 2 short naps but Kai is ok for a long nap in the pm anyway isn't he and you have wanted to cap DT sleep so I think you should go for it. I would guess it would really work for you!

[EloysH]

I think you are right BB, he has performed with a good long arvo nap. I am just a chicken!  I also want to cap DT sleep becuase i can't get out and about easily with my two boys 

thanks spodnic!     I don't have experience with this as with my DS1, I was too chicken to try the short AM nap as he napped so well and so long for the AM nap.  He flat out refused to take any PM naps from 10 months on, sometimes I got a car sleep out of him.  So I put him on one nap at 11 months and never looked back, he was sleeping up to 3 hours straight away.  I think part of that was that I didn't interfere with that first nap, it was always long  he didn't have  it cut then expected to sleep long again!

The other point I was wondering about was....    How long are people on the short AM nap and short PM nap before you had to go to one nap?    Does the Am nap get later and later until it turns into one nap.. and how do you extend that Am nap to a nice long nap once you are on one nap??  I am soo worred the short AM nap will undo his long sleeping.     

Daylene are you still on this thread?

[~Karen~]

Yeah, I'd cut am nap as well if he's refusing pm nap.  Try 45 mins at first but you may have to cut to 30 mins.  We're still doing long am nap and short pm nap but I am having to APOP this at times to ensure we get something in to avoid him getting OT.  

You just posted when I was about to!  You can keep cutting the morning nap until it ends up even being a 10 min catnap in order to then get a long pm nap and should keep the OT monster at bay!  Then when't he's ready or you start getting ew or nap refusals or whatever then you can try the one nap day! 

[timmysmommy]

Some really great ideas on here!  We had 2 nw's last night one at 4:30, another at 6:30 which he never fell back asleep.  I fed at 7:15 and made sure he stayed up- so that is how we started the day.  Yesterday he had 45 min am nap, 1 hr pm nap.  I am thinking about trying a longer am1.5 hrs, and shorter pm 30 min.  He seemed too rested after his long pm nap, and he didn't go to bed!

[rozza]

Right, yesterday DS2 managed one mid day sleep for the first time ever 1-3. He had gone back to sleep after an ew of 4.30 a.m and got up properly at 7. What a great day, bed time at 7 and then even slept till 6 this morning.

So we started the day on a positive note. He was quite happy to have no morning nap, had lunch at 11.15 and was tucked up and fast asleep at 11.30. Then he woke up 12.40 and is now exhausted. Ive tried to put him down again but there's serious resistance and I have no clue how we are going to Cope with DS1's little kickers without a serious melt down. We get back from LKs at 6 so I'll put him straight to bed then and hope for the best.

Am so tired from weeks of 5 o'clock starts and we even have a babysitter booked for tonight so DH and I can go to the cinema (first time in months). I could cry! So much for a nice night out, I'll prob fall asleep watching the film!

Zxxxx

[Daylene]

I'm here, Elo ~ I just mostly read what's going on; I try not to jump in with my 2 cents' worth, since I had so few troubles with the transition I mostly don't know what I'm talking about!  The truth is, I never used the 20min am/long pm as a matter of routine... We were on a 45min am / 90min pm EASY for the LONGEST time; when Tara started showing signs of wanting more A time I just went ahead and *tried* a few one-nap days to see how she'd take them, and we went from there into the transition.  Only a couple of times since then, I've had to go back to 2-nap days every now and then, and for those I used the 20min am catnap to avoid pm nap refusal.

Good luck!

[kimmbba]

well, we've been in the early BT, early wake up loop.  Plus, I thought he was over the cold, but not so.  In thoery I know he needs more sleep but we're struggling to get it.  I hate to cap any naps when he's sick and he's only sleeping about 10 hours a night and then 1.5 hours during the day.  He usually can handle 5 hours A in the am but then after a 1.5 hour nap if I forced a CN (which sometimes works, most of the time not) I can't even attempt it before 4:30-5.  I feel like this is too late, but I guess if I wanted him to start going to bed later maybe this is what my goal should be?? 

Kind of thinking out loud, as well as wondering if anyone else has any insight.

[lilybug25]

Lo did another 13 hr night last night!! Lo only had a 1 hr nap so early bt and she got up at 6:30am. Just put her to bed 5 mins ago and she singing herself to sleep right now, hoping for a 2 hr nap so bt can be after 6pm for the first time in over a week! No matter how hard I try APOP she won't take 2 naps anymore so I just do a early bt when she only had a 1hr nap. SO far ot monster is at bay as she is doing 12 or 13 hr nights.

[Buntybear]

Singing herself to sleep - so cute!! Olly will either go to sleep (with me there) or cry and cry  - need to work on independent sleep I think!

So we are in the OT cycle.  . Just found another tooth coming through, a couple of days of shocking naps, 2 nights of long NWs and what I think must be a bit of a stomach bug hasn't helped. Were back to 2 naps today after 3 days of 1. Can't wait till we are through this!

[lilybug25]

well lo woke up after a 1hr, I think I need to put a night diaper on her for her naps and I'm going to try pushing her a time 10 mins to see if that helps tomorrow, cranky baby

[lilly_kitt]

I think i'm in for a long night, Ty was in nursery today and had 45min nap all day !!!!

 

[Buntybear]

Lilly_kitt, good luck!

[EloysH]

Thanks Daylene 

Thanks Karen    afternoon naps are just too hard at the moment, like Kim, we are only able to get them around 4:30 - 5:00pm, so if I were not to have a short AM nap we would need to do late bedtimes with such a late cat nap.  A late cat nap doesn't suit me at all, it means that I can't feed or bath the kids at the same time.

Clare hope you get out fo your OT loop soon!


Kim: I was deciding between the exact same thing as you...  there is nothing wrong with a later bedtime for a while, but I feel long term my DS2 would not wake later and thus get OT after a few days.


rozza: yay for your good start.  So sorry that you have to be so tired for your date!  Same here, the few times I have went out with DH I have been soooo tired and wanting to go home 

So today we accidentally had a one nap day... he did 10:30 am till 12:45pm... I was leeping and forgot to wake him (was up from 4:30am with DS1 dummy eaning - another story!)    then we were out at the next nap time 4-5 pm in the pram, he wouldn't sleep. Did  a quick dinner and bath at 5:30pm - he was melting down after being up for 5-6 hours.... got him asleep by 6:30pm.

[Buntybear]

Let us know how he did overnight Eloise. Olly STTN on Monday after his first 1 nap day! Does Kai have a dummy?

[timmysmommy]

How did everyone do last night?  We had one wake up last night at 4:30.  He went back to sleep fairly peacefully with some patting.  We are going for a one nap day today- so we'll see how the night goes!