Anyone Want To Talk About the 2-1 Transition? Thread #13

[kimmbba]

OK, we've been all over the place for a couple of weeks.  I think I need to start to figure things out.  Ethan has had a runny nose, but now I'm wodering if it's more allergies than cold as there really are no other symptoms.
Anyway this is out typical day at the moment:
6am wake up (if I'm lucky, and probably have fed back to sleep somewhere between 4-5)
10-10:30 nap.  this nap can be anywhere from 1 hour to 1 hour 45 min
TRY to APOP nap around 4, has happened I think only once.
BT by 6
Now, I know that if he's in bed at 6 that 4-5am wake up isn't necessarily an EW, but I keep hoping for him to sleep in, catch up on sleep so that we can make it to 11am for a nap.  Does anyone think I should just get up at 4-5 hopefully getting the 2 hour nap I'm searching for, to get a later BT and ultimately a later wake up?  I think this is probably the direction I need to go, just wondering if anyone has any other brilliant ideas.
Today he only took a 1 hour nap, up at 11:45 so I'm still going to try to APOP a nap maybe around 4-4:30
 

[~Karen~]

I'd try a shorted am nap and longer pm nap so he's not trying to catch up on night sleep at the am nap.  This *should* help with ew as well.  No, I don't think you should get up at 4-5am as I would never think that was an acceptable solution! 

Nic - Hugs 

[kimmbba]

thanks Karen, I've been nervous to do the short am nap, only because he hasn't slept in the afternoon with any regularity in months...but then again, I don't know if I remember what that word even means!

[EloysH]

what should i do?  Kai has been up since 1:30pm (1.5 hr nap) and he won't be tired until 5pm at least for a nap... that's too late.   I could do 5;5:20 and 8:30 bedtime or else the earliest I can put him down is 6pm, but it will mean EW of 5am... not sure what I should do??? He can't handle more than 4-4.25 hours A time.   He woke at 8am today.

[~Karen~]

That's such a rubbish time to finish a first nap isn't it!  Lewis wouldn't go back down before when he woke at that sort of time but don't think I tried to AP him, just went for early bedtime.

He's OT from two one nap days and took a bit to settle last night and woke at 515am.  I didn't feed him till after 6 though and he went back to sleep till sometime after 7 so will two naps today.  The first one is going to have to be in sling at toddler group though.  He rolled onto his tummy to sleep for the first time last night though and he can't roll back so that may have annoyed him at 515 as well! 

[EloysH]

yeah such a rubbish time!  Went for early bedtime.  He took ageeeeessssss to settle so asleep by 7pm. Poor lil guy had A time of 5.5 hours! He's just woken after 45 mins after bedtime too obviously OT, DH is patting him now.

I'm imagining a 12 month old in the sling  Kai still loves the sling, good luck with it tomorrow!

[~Karen~]

Lol!  He does look quite big in it!  I got him weighed yesterday and he's 20lbs but he's quite long.  Hey, it still does the job, lol! 

[Buntybear]

Hi Eloise, bit late now but FWIW for an 8am WU I would always do a 1 nap day and extend that 1st a time as long as possible (only talking 15/20 mins here) and hope this would mean a longer nap.

[EloysH]

Thanks BB!    Yes I did try to extend that first A time.. I think he did 4 hours... but I should have pushed a little bit longer I think since the arvo ended up being 5.5. hours...!

 

[Daylene]

Elo ~ Tara usually wakes from her one nap around 1:30pm.   Her "normal" nap is around 90 minutes, from 12 - 1:30pm, and she goes to bed at 6:30pm.  When we were first starting the transition and she couldn't yet handle 5 hours A time, I would put her to bed at 5:45-6pm after a 1:30pm wake-up.

Just a thought, ladies.  If you are playing around with 1-nap days, I would advise against giving any kind of catnap (on your 2-nap days, of course) around 5-ish.  When you transition, you may have days (we sure did!) where you need your LO to go to bed, for the night, at 5:30pm, or thereabouts, and if he (or she) has recently had catnaps around that time, he is going to be one confused baby!  What you definately DON'T want is to put him down for the night and have him think it's just a catnap, right?

[EloysH]

Daylene, I just love your advice bits and bobs     great to know!  I here you, BUT my main worry is that he will EW!  I can't imagine in my wildest dreams a 12 hour night let alone a 13 hour night   


I would love to hear if anyone's LO's is taking well to the early bedtime and sleeping extra long at night when put to bed early, or are they EW - (which technically is not an EW)?

   He has never slept more than 11 hours, we were mostly getting 8-9 hours the past month or so.... he was just lovin his day sleep!  Hopefully things are slowly changing, we are getting more night sleep little by little as I have been cutting that day sleep and pushing those A times, in prep for one nap.

[~Karen~]

I wake up no later than 430pm now, even if it's only been a 20 min nap otherwise bedtime is way too late!

Elo - We do get an ew on early bed days but then he goes back to sleep after feed so will sleep 630pm-530am.  Have a feed after I've tried ignoring him for a bit and then go back to sleep for another couple of hours.  Can't really complain at that though as Ethan never would have gone back to sleep! 

[~Karen~]

Oh and no nap in sling today at toddler group so he's just gone to sleep (1230pm) for a one nap day.  Think I could be playing catch up for a couple of days but he'll be able to nap at home.  Fingers crossed for a nice long nap today!

[Buntybear]

Yep Eloise I am with you - too scared. Jacki - you are lucky to have a high sleep needs baby at night! Totally understand where you are coming from though. This transition is esp hard on their body clocks. I hate that CN. Plus, I think with LOs who have the long NWs that Kai and Olly do it is hard to get them into any kind of 'routine' and understand what their sleep needs actually are. I swear that Olly must permanantly be OT and therefore not have any regular sleep patterns, KWIM.

Kai is still young to be having 1 nap days. I keep being told that and Olly is over a year old!

[~Karen~]

Yeah totally!  There's no way Lewis is ready and I *should* wake him up at 7am in order to get the two naps in.  It was working well before Sunday when he was feeding at 615am and getting up for the day.  It's only since the Sunday lay in we've been playing the one nap day again as he's been getting for the day too late to fit in two naps.