Anyone Want To Talk About the 2-1 Transition? Thread #13

[Buntybear]

See, I don't know if Olly is ready. Maybe it would suit him to have one nap and do away with this ridiculous CN that I have had to APOP for months now! If I didn't BW then there is no way I would be trying to squeeze that CN in. His 1st A time is always over 4 hours, his 2nd only 3 to get the CN in. His last one is 2.5-3hrs to avoid a late BT. As a baby his pm A times were always the longest. (in fact he would go 7-8 hours as a baby before eventually going to sleep for BT lol - maybe not a good example  ). It is hard to know with him if he gets OT from 1 nap days as his NT sleep is bad regardless.

[newmummy82]

Hi Ladies,

Just popping on to catch up (I blink and you're on page 23!).  DD is not quite 10 months yet but we still seem to be progressing with the 2:1 (albeit slowly- more like 2:1.5 ATM!). We have had some success with cutting the am nap rather than pushing later. So we cut first nap from 1.5hr to 1hr to 45 min and have just trimmed the am nap to 35 min. Each 'cut' has lasted us about 2 weeks before the EW start and the second nap gets shorter. For us it seems like DD can handle a long last A (4.5 hr) IF the nap has been good (2hr). On days when the second nap was rubbish, we have not had any luck with a CN so just go for slightly early BT and hope!
What really helped our EW was being a bit stricter about not feeding before 6.30 as it had become a prop (for me as well as DD- that last bit of sleep is so delicious I hate missing it!!)

Of course, my family think I'm mental about all the tweaking and keep saying that 10.5 hrs is lots for her age (and for some it's enough but not my DD- 11.5 is magic number for us !)

Probably condeming myself to a rubbish nap and EW for posting this :-)

One day this will all be a distant memory and I will be lying awake for her to come in from a party!

Ruth

[kimmbba]

Taking all the great advice being given to everyone else too

Well, Ethan is definitely OT!!!  Last night he moaned and wiggled around while he was "sleeping" for the first TWO hours, was up at 10, and 2:30am and then up for the day at 5:30 (11 hour night if you don't count being up periodically).  I need him to catch up somehow...the hard part is that I'm not sure he'll do it during the day??  I tried to put him him down early for a nap yesterday morning, but he just wasn't ready yet.  UGGG.  And he of course refused to take a nap yesterday after 4.5 hours...I guess I may end up with an earlier BT if he does it again today.  He needs to get better/more sleep to break this routine.

[Buntybear]

Kim, I thought you were doing good on a 1 nap routine before? Has something changed??

[kimmbba]

Yeah, he has had a terrible couple of weeks.  I thought it was a cold, but turns out it may be allergies?  His nose has been running non-stop, and his sleep has been messed up.  He also started walking so I don't know if this is a factor in the sleeping.  His naps just keep getting shorter (1 hour yesterday) but he is having a difficult time with napping period.  Then I think he's just OT all night...

[timmysmommy]

Busy thread!  El- T won't do long nights either.  He was loving his long naps, but his nights kept getting shorter!  

I've decided to just go with the flow with this nap situation.  Some days we have one, some days 2, yesterday we had 3!  We were traveling and he napped in the car, then on the plane, then another 20 min cn in the car at 7:30 pm!  We had a late night last night lol!  He is a little crabby today, so I put him to bed lol!  Poor thing is a little OT.  He did so well traveling yesterday!  He charmed everyone we met!  

I'm hoping for good naps, and good nights for all!

[Buntybear]

Kim, when we were in our mess over christmas and I had no clue on A times etc then I took a step back and decided to go what WAS working for us before it went screwy  . Maybe try that for a few days and see how it goes??

[kimmbba]

Thanks BB that's good advice as I feel like I have no idea where to start.  Today he would NOT go down for a nap until over 5 hours A took a 50 min nap!  So, I'm just going to have to put him to bed very early.  I'll try the APOP nap (as always) but it just hardly ever works.  He has to be tired, but he woke up like he had just napped for 2 hours?! 

[Buntybear]

Well hopefully if the routine worked before it will again! I found that I didn't even have to add on any A time given the OT ness we had got. In fact we are still on same A times now!  Fingers crossed for you hun x

[kimmbba]

May live to regret this, but I let him take a nap at 4:15 and will wake him at 5.  He was so tired, yawning, rubbing his eyes, and had been up nearly 5 hours at that point...the idea of a 5:30 BT scared me too.  I hope I'm not making matters worse

[bug_blues70]

Ellen's been getting OT too and I tried to let her catch up today but it totally backfired... put her down early and let her sleep as long as she wanted b/c she woke up really early. Turned out to be a 2h20m nap and she totally refused her 2nd nap. Had a 6 hr atime until a 530 bedtime and didn't settle til 545. So far no peeping tho, so hopefully it will turn out ok.

Claire - Out of curiosity, if he can do 4 hrs, then a 2 hr nap (?) and 5+ hrs, why are you doing a CN at all? If Ellen could consistently make that 4 hr atime in the morning, our CN would be *almost* history except maybe to reposition bedtime every once in a while.

Kim - sorry about the OT. I think we're in the same boat and it sucks. Can't seem to get back on track with 2n days OR 1n days. :-/

[EloysH]

so is anyone resolved to put up with the Ew's.... I can't think of any other option, other than early bedtime.  I put K to sleep at 7pm last night so he had a 5.5 last A time and the poor bugger has just learned how to handle 4-4.5 hours.   He woke 5 times last night obvioulsy OT, it was hurrendous!   

Today another one nap day, napped 12-1:15, I will put him down at 6 this time and brace for EW.

[kimmbba]

Eloise, I did think, ok I have to get up everyday at 5:30, then he gave me several weeks of sleeping until 7, and we're back to 5:30.  I think until they can handle more A time, maybe you're right!  I wasn't really thinking of it that way, but it makes perfect sense.

[~Karen~]

Eloys - We had similar yesterday.  Only a one hour nap from 1230-130pm.  Bedtime at 6pm and he was prob asleep by 620pm.  Then had nw at 430am and I fed him after a while as wanted to go back to sleep and so did dh as he had work.  I actually woke him at 715am so I can do a 2 nap day. 

[Buntybear]

Hi Megan, thanks for reading my post, it was getting lost in all the other threads lol

Problem really is nursery as he only has 1 45 min nap all day. Feel he needs to catch up other days. However will def be trying more 1 nap as they do suit him better.

Sorry about your day hun. Guess if she is up early needs to be a 2 nap day and you have to be brave and cap that nap . Post on here if you have time before the first nap advice and support! X