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Re: What to do, what to do?
« Reply #165 on: February 26, 2011, 09:34:54 am »
The thing is before getting rid of the nap he would sleep for about 4-6hrs before waking and now he's sleeping somewhere between 9.5and 10.5 before waking so for him I'm not surprised he thinks it's time to get up!!!

On a positive note for you though Wendy - I was thinking about this last night - Finn sounds very similar to my friends DS.  Likes to nap and does a short night, never tacked onto nightsleep and she had to move his bedtime back to simply get a later wake up *however* now she has dropped his nap (cold turkey no less!) he now does tack night sleep and sleeps 11.5-12hrs every night instead of 10-10.5!!  So there def is hope for you :-*
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Re: What to do, what to do?
« Reply #166 on: February 26, 2011, 11:49:30 am »
Yeah hope is almost tantamount to denial for me though lol. I get confused between the two.  We're always derailed by something - it used to be teeth, now it's illness, who knows what lurks ahead.

But we just plug along because we have to.

The only way this later bedtime is even possible is that I'm also feeling so much better these days and able to cope with later bedtime myself.  I'm now able to deal on 7-8 hrs sleep whereas before I was still exhausted after 8 or even more.  So now when I put him to bed I still have some down time myself.

I have spent the better part of 24 mths looking for a magic sleep answer and for some kids there just isn't one.  I like hope but I also just try now to accept what is.

I'm so glad that O is getting a better night though.  This can only lead to good things!
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Re: What to do, what to do?
« Reply #167 on: February 28, 2011, 15:58:08 pm »
GIVE ME STRENGTH PLEEEEAAAAAASE!!!

I honestly am at the end of my tether!  So here are the last few nights... no naps any of the days.
Fri
asleep 7pm (I think)
woke 5.45am - told him sun wasn't on - slept till 8.15am!!!!!

Sat
asleep 7pm
woke 12.30am (for a long while)
woke before sun came on at 7am although he was at least quiet

Sun
asleep 6.30pm (shattered from being at ILs all day)
woke 12.15am (for around an hour)
awake before sun at 6.15am....

I mean clearly i am doing something wrong.  Without his nap he is truly zonked by 6.30pm and we have to be up early ish during the week but I'm lost.  I cannot carry on getting up in the night.
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Re: What to do, what to do?
« Reply #168 on: February 28, 2011, 16:02:50 pm »
What's he doing at that NW?  Yelling for you?  Are you using those ear plugs m' dear?

His NW could just be developmental/habitual at this point, it's so hard to say because he does it so often.  But maybe it was too much sleep on Fri?  That's a LOT of sleep for him, uninterrupted.  Maybe you have to wake him at 11.5/12 hrs?  Maybe even 11, with his 1 hr NW he's getting 11 hrs almost yeah?

Do you think it's some UT leading to OT?

Laura, you are not doing anything wrong hon.  At his age it's really just out of your hands, it truly is.  You can only do what you can do and you have done that...and more. 
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Re: What to do, what to do?
« Reply #169 on: February 28, 2011, 16:08:40 pm »
hugssss, Laura. 



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Re: What to do, what to do?
« Reply #170 on: February 28, 2011, 16:11:03 pm »
Do you think it's some UT leading to OT?
Probably!

The Fri night was a lot of sleep but he was probably awake for an hour at 5.45am.... it's on average an hour's NW.  He sometimes calls he sometimes doesn't, very often he'll sing or talk constantly about his day (he talks *all* day *every* day!!!)

If he slept 11hrs and woke at 5.30am I would be happy (ish!) and then I'd move bedtime back..... I just can't get 11hrs straight....
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Re: What to do, what to do?
« Reply #171 on: February 28, 2011, 16:13:53 pm »
Hey Laura, I just talked to a friend who has 2 kids.  Her kids always go to bed at 9 due to all kinds of personal reasons.  And her DS is 18 mo or so and sleeps 9-7.  It's like in our cases, 10 h sleep but not waking at 5:30.  Do you think this might work for u and work on shifting the whole routine later??  We couldn't try that because of set nap times at daycare.  Just wondering if it might work for you. 



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Re: What to do, what to do?
« Reply #172 on: February 28, 2011, 16:15:08 pm »
Does he still have a nap though?  This is my concern - 10hrs without a nap ???
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Re: What to do, what to do?
« Reply #173 on: February 28, 2011, 16:16:35 pm »
We are doing 8/8:30 - 6/6:30 now.  It has been working - so far.  But he still has a nap.  Not sure how you would extend the day so far without a nap.  But you may find that he does a longer night, even with his habitual breaks in it.  It is something to think about.  I was going to suggest not putting him down at 6:30 and pushing him out regardless of how zonked he is but then decided it might make things worse.  But then again, they can't actually get much worse so I think anything is worth a shot.
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Re: What to do, what to do?
« Reply #174 on: February 28, 2011, 16:27:23 pm »
Does he still have a nap though?  This is my concern - 10hrs without a nap
yeah he still takes a 2 h nap and he's not at nursery.  But for O, i just mean to slowly shift his day to start a bit later, even if it doesn't make any difference to his overall sleep, length-wise, hopefully it will help you with yours.  I think my health is significantly compromised due to the 14 months long of NWs and EWs.  I still don't feel healthy although I haven't had an infection with 40C fever for about 5 weeks now.  *fingers crossed* that it will stay that way. 

yeah like Wendy said, it could be a bit of habitual waking by now.  But perhaps let him have a nap, then you can do a major shift to later bedtime?  Does O show tired cues anymore?  I notice now that DS sleeps overall better, once he's tired, he's all over the place, very clearly getting into the OT zone and if I put him to bed even 15 mins too late, I will get NW or EW. 



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Re: What to do, what to do?
« Reply #175 on: February 28, 2011, 17:22:47 pm »
I'm not sure what to suggest but definitely want to offer hugs!
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Re: What to do, what to do?
« Reply #176 on: March 07, 2011, 12:40:01 pm »
It's not working :(  Nothing is :(

I know he's been poorly but I have seen *no* improvement.  i keep thinking things will get better and the no nap will help but he's now back to waking around midnight again.  I literally can't take it anymore :(

So we've basically done no nap pretty consistently for 2 weeks now.  He was starting to sleep about 9.5/10hrs straight but now he's reverted back to what he was doing before.  He does settle super fast when he goes down and he is def more likely to sleep in in the morning but I really had hoped this would help.

He is cutting his last molar (finally, yipee) so I guess it could be that :-\
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Re: What to do, what to do?
« Reply #177 on: March 07, 2011, 13:10:00 pm »
HUGS Laura. For now I'd say hang in there (hard as it is) and stay the course till teeth are all done? Sending sleepy and restful vibes to you both.
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Re: What to do, what to do?
« Reply #178 on: March 07, 2011, 13:30:31 pm »
Laura, it could well be that last molar....M's sleep was pretty bad when they were coming through & they have now all come through & her sleep is much better!

Hoping you catch a break soon!  :-*
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Re: What to do, what to do?
« Reply #179 on: March 07, 2011, 14:48:24 pm »
oh laura - sorry things are no better. I would stick with what you are doing until the teeth are through and then see. Hugs xx




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