UK - wheat/dairy/egg free bread?

[jesie]

Happy birthday your little munchkin too

It's for George, he can't have gluten, egg or dairy at the mo hoping as he gets older it will change though.

[Buntybear]

Ohhh it is hard isn't it. I still BF so I follow it too. Having a wobble tonight as diet is so restricted, feeling very sorry for myself chips again!

What kind of foods do you give George?

[jesie]

G eats the same things over and over

Breakfast is Nairns(?) Gluten free porridge or musli with 1/2 a banana.
(last week we tried rice krispies but they didn't like him so we now know he can't have barley)

He eats rice and Annibel karmels egg, dairy and gluten free pasta with various things for lunch. I buy a Tesco tomato pasta sauce, heinz baby Mediterranean veg sauce, I make a mushroom sauce and add things like ham, tuna, chicken and also make a fish sauce.

For tea he'll have things like shepherds/cottage pie, stew, various meats and veg, jacket pot, beans and ham or tuna etc. Fish pie.

I cook everything, portion it and freeze it. If I can he'll have what we have but that's very rare.

Our local chippy does gluten free fish and chips on the last Tuesday of the month so we had that for the first time this week and it went down a treat
 
He has lots of fruit, he can't eat plum, but not had a problem with anything else.
Fruit and jelly is a nice treat.

I make biscuits. (but he'd rather have fruit)
Had a right mission trying to make an edible cake for his birthday, one was so bad it made my sister gag LOL

But i'm desperate for bread for his lunch.

Well done for sticking with it!
G went onto formula at 10 weeks, it was meant to be just while I was getting the dairy out my system, but I felt so rubbish, like I was poisoning him, I couldn't do it anymore

[Buntybear]

Wow sounds like you are fabously with his meals! Olly refuses to eat most things I have made and so I don't bother with things like fish pie etc  which makes life harder. He prefers finger foods at the mo. Did try him with rice in a Tom sauce yesterday but again refused. Would you mind sharing the recipe for the mushroom sauce? I don't know whether it was the tomato he didn't like.

Now that is interesting re the rice crisps. nursery gave him that for first brekkie there on weds and he has been farting like a trooper ever since (sorry tmi!) and been having loads of NWs. Didn't know it had barley in it??

[jesie]

Yes and it was the dietitian who told me to give them to him to give him more of a variety, so I did. Didn't know barley had gluten in it until I asked on here as by day 3 there were big problems I didn't like so stopped and he's back to normal now.

The mushroom sauce... I just chuck.it all in i'm afraid, but its
1 big tbsp lump of butter (dairy free)
2 heaped tbsp's of flour (gluten free, plain)
Milk... umm... about 16oz  (formula - nutramigen aa)
Diced mushrooms (i guess this depends on how strong you want it to how many you put in, I use most a punet of small ones or about 3/4 large ones)

Melt butter, in sauce pan, add the flour, stir into a dough (i do this off the heat), add milk stiring in on the heat, I whisk it cos its easier to get no lumps. I do 8oz. Then make another 8oz and add what I need. Then add the mushrooms.
I leave it to cook on a low heat until I think the mushrooms are cooked. It will go a beige ish colour.

Obviously you can which ever butter, milk and flour you can use, are you just gluten free or more?

Sorry, I hope that's helpful, but as I said I just chuck.it all in.
I made the mistake one time of adding lots more flour to thickening it up, and it went really thick! It does get thicker as you cook and stir, if not them do add more flour, and if its too thick, add more milk.

I've been very lucky, G will eat anything I give him, apart from crumble its the food that doesn't like him   do you think that's varied enough though? I just think its the same things over and over again.

[Buntybear]

Thanks, yes I just chuck things in for a white sauce so I will def give that a go. At nursery they shove a bowl in front of them and expect them to either feed themselves or they will feed them - neither of which works for Olly - so I am going to have to go back to things he can eat out of a bowl so he can practice 

Normally we do porridge with oatmilk and fruit pot and GF toast for brekkie, lunch and dinner are chicken or salmon chunks with GF pasta or potato (discovered chips and hash brown this week ) and veg. Your menu sounds positively haute cuisine compared to us! I am a real foodie but am stumped at the mo.

I did know barley was gluten but never thought it would be in rice krispies! They can't do a scratch test for gluten so he wasn't tested for it. I am going to read up about it now as his wheat allergy was classic - hives, vomiting etc - coeliac disease sounds more of an GI problem .

If you don't mind me asking what were your son's symptoms after eating barley?

Thanks for your help x

[jesie]

Day 1 he was a bit moody and tearful, but you know what it's like at this age, I didn't even consider the food, I thought teeth! Gave him calpol.
Day 2 after lunch I realised he had only pooed once on day 1 and not at all yet that day (he usually has a good 4 poos a day which i'm not 100% sure is normal bits a different story LOL)  he was worse than day 1 very tearful, cuddly, sleepy, appeared uncomfortable and just plain unhappy. He had a poo at 4ish. It was hard and not nice for him to get out. After wards he was happy, laughed, ran around.... but it was short lived and only lasted half hour, then he started to get funny again. I had tried calpol which hadn't helped him at all and then I realised the poos which made me question the rice krispies.
Day 3 the same as day 2 but a bit worse, and I had given up on calpol by now. Had 1 poo which  was even harder and uncomfortable for him than day 2!
Day 4 went back to normal cereal, he went back to day 2 symptoms, two poos which were softer
Day 5 was like day 1 but 2 poos again a little softer
Day 6 same as day 5
Day 7 4 poos, very happy monkey was back!

Oh and I was questioning a friend on day 3 that his happy leaked up to nipples and down to knees during the nights day 1 and 2 then I read up on barley and read a sign is excessive weeing and bed wetting, could this of been why his nappies were so wet? Day 3 also the same. Day 4 leaked but less, day 5 leaked less, then day 6 even less

Gluten has only effected his insides - which is why its so bloomin hard.
The others are so much easier
Egg covered his body in rash and made him sick
Plum was a rash
Dairy made him very ill effecting everything- skin, eyes, breathing, tummy, v&d etc

[Buntybear]

Thanks - just looked at report from nursery and it says he only tasted it but still looks like some went in. Have just looked at the coeliac sticky where it describes poos  as pale and they fell apart - we had these. Along with the excessive wind I thought it was a strange stomach bug, or that he had eaten something he was allergic too from one of the other babies plates. Now I am worried that it was the barley - will speak to nursery on monday and see if they can remember if he actually ate any. When I was there he was refusing it but after I left they may have got him to try some. Oh what a worry

[jesie]

G's poos weren't pale, they went very dark! I remember thinking Blimey in a few more days it will be black! I wonder what that means?
I am hoping its more an intolerance than celiacs, and that he'll grow out of it. But then I am not willing to pump him full of it for 3 months to get tested either, especially when he reacted that way after 3 small bowls of krispies!
Dr did say though (we went to see him on Thursday) that the gluten in barley is a little different to the gluten in wheat and some can have one but not the other, and others can't if either (if that makes sense)

It is a worry yes. And they should be more vidulent. I'm from a nursery back ground so I know all to well. you are right to speak to them.
G has never eaten anything I haven't prepared, not even DH has prepared anything. He has a little lunch box which he loves to carry around LOL

[jesie]

Forgot to say, the sauce makes 8 portions for G, so I portion it up and it freezes really well

[Buntybear]

Thanks  phoned round all our local sainsburys stores and no one has it. Apparently it is on hold. DH has gone to buy some bread flour to make our own today!

[jesie]

Good luck! I tried it in a bread maker machine and it was horrid, think will try by hand this time. You've given me the push to try today too!

[Buntybear]

Actually dh has just phoned and we are going to try the DS brand of bread. It has soy in it but he is not allergic to soy, we are just not sure if he is intolerant. Still going to give it a go!

[kerry,(kaceys mum)]

I'm sure morrisons do a range also

[KathrynK]

Hello SIL
Didn't make it to Morrisons today but I will do tomorrow and will check for you x