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Shorten naps? Need help with a solution.
« on: April 19, 2011, 20:15:53 pm »
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It's been a while since I've posted.  Took a little "time off" to try and sort out some of DD's sleep issues.  Things have definitely improved some, but it's still a work in progress!  Really, I'm not sure where my post should go because we have several issues including extended NW's, EW's and now fighting naps.  I THINK DD may be ready for increased A times, but not really sure where to go as I"m fearful it will cause more problems with the NW and EW.  The solution that really helped get things going "back on track" was shortening DD's naps and going to relatively set nap times (rather than just A times).  It didn't fix things completely, but it certainly helped.  I'm wondering if we are in need of another nap shortening or if there is another solution that might be safer.  DD will be 9 months old on Friday.  I'm going to post DD's typical day, but the NW's and EW's are different every day and, occasionally (maybe once every 1-2 weeks) she doesn't do either.  ::)

Usual wake time is 6:30 or 6:45 am (I control this unless she is already awake.  Helps to start our day at the same time.)  She has an EW around 5 or 5:30 am about once a week.
E   7:15 am  BF,  8:15 am  solids
A    3 hours 15 minutes if she wakes at her usual time.  If she has an EW I hold her off as long as she tolerates without a meltdown.
S   10-11:30 am (I wake her.  I think she would gladly sleep longer most days.)

E   11:30 am  BF,  12:30 pm  solids
A   play etc.
E   2 pm  BF
A   3 hours 15 minutes total
S   2:45-4:15 pm  (I wake her most days.)  **The past 3 days she has fought going down for her nap.  Today was the worst and she wasn't asleep until 3 pm, so 3.5 hours A time.

E   4:30 pm BF,  5:30 pm  solids
A   3 hours
E   7 pm BF and asleep within 10-15 minutes, sometimes sooner.
S   7:15 pm

Now NW's can happen anywhere from 1 to 4:30 am and they last 45-90 minutes.  I don't go in to her room.  She just babbles and fusses to herself and eventually falls back to sleep.  It's just really frustrating because I know she needs the sleep ( and I really need the sleep), but she happily wakes and can't seem to resettle for quite a while.  Then our day repeats.

So, any suggestions about needed schedule tweaks?   Shorten naps more (like 1 hour 15 min for the first nap instead of 1 hour 30 min?), increase A times?  DD has never been a 12-hour night sleeper, more like 11 hours.  But with the extended NW's sometimes it's only 10-10.5 hours.  No wonder she wants to take such long naps!!!!  Maybe shortening a nap will build up more tired for nights?  It's just crazy because she is VERY tired at bedtime, but then still has a NW and seems WIDE AWAKE and usually happy! :o  Also, if I do increase A times, what does that do to the rest of her day?  Bedtime later?  Not really sure what's next.

I would love to hear everyone's input on what may be the issue/how we might start to correct it.  I've always received such wonderful advice and support here!  Thank you all in advance.  Hope to hear from you soon!  Have a nice day.   :)

Erica
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Re: Shorten naps? Need help with a solution.
« Reply #1 on: April 19, 2011, 22:07:49 pm »
I think I'll pop this over to General Sleep Issues since you are sort of wondering about a lot of sleep related things at the moment and you'll likely get more eyes and therefore more input over there. :)








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Re: Shorten naps? Need help with a solution.
« Reply #2 on: April 20, 2011, 22:05:33 pm »
I would try to add 10-15mins to the first A time for 3 days. If she copes OK with that I would probably shorten her PM nap by 15mins as well. For now leave BT the same if she doesn't seem extra tired.
Sounds like she is at the very start of the 2:1. But don't worry she is probably several  months off moving to 1 nap. I am a fan of the long AM, short PM nap so that the AM nap just gets later and later until it is around lunch time and she doesn't have time for a 2nd nap and you can just do an early BT for a while.
Here are some links that may help you decide how to tackle it over the coming months.
http://babywhispererforums.com/index.php?topic=95670.0
http://babywhispererforums.com/index.php?topic=41952.0
http://babywhispererforums.com/index.php?topic=186919.0
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Re: Shorten naps? Need help with a solution.
« Reply #3 on: April 21, 2011, 20:01:33 pm »
Thanks for all of the info.  Ughhh!  Not looking forward to the 2-1 transition!  Right now my biggest concern is the long NW's.  She wakes up anywhere from 1 to 5 am and stays awake 45 minutes to 1 1/2 hours!  It's killing me and I think it totally messes up her day, as she is tired and wants to nap even longer.  (I limit her naps to 1.5 hours each.)  Will increasing her first A time and shortening the 2nd nap help with these NW's?  I'm not too fond of the idea of a long morning nap and short afternoon nap because I have a 3-year old that naps in the afternoon, so that's my ONLY time without kiddos.  Their naps only overlap by about 45 minutes as it is.  If I increase the first A time and then shorten her second nap, I may get 20 minutes to myself if I'm lucky!  Makes for a very long day......
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Re: Shorten naps? Need help with a solution.
« Reply #4 on: April 21, 2011, 21:55:57 pm »
If you prefer you can shorten the AM nap and keep the long PM nap. That nap should then move earlier. I have never tried this but know a lot of people do. I am sure there are several people on the 2:1 support thread (the last link I posted above) who could chat with you about how they do it.
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