For The Love of God, Please Teeth, COME OUT ALREADY!

[Smurfette]

Arrrrggggggggggg!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
That pretty much sums it up.

I'm ready to pull my hair out. Meds don't seem to help my DD and she's up every hour. There are 2 front teeth, just hanging out, taunting me, sitting just below the gum line. They're in no rush to come out. 

I've tried Tylenol or Advil and Camilia but the closer they get, the more she hurts.
The poor thing was sucking on my shoulder today when I went to burp her, just trying to ease the pain.
Any other suggestions??

[skatty]

I know it just seesm crazy but an amber teething necklace really helped our dd, the first one broke and things got worst again until another came:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Genuine-Baltic-Amber-Teething-Necklace-Honey-UK-/290557251718?pt=UK_Baby_Baby_Feeding_Dummies_Pacifiers_Teething_Aids&hash=item43a68fd086

Funny thing is she still wears it, she loves that necklace 

It didn't work miracles but we are sure there was an improvement. We also used both paracetomel and ibuprofen but the main thing is we had to make sure we cut A times right down, if we didn't do that nights would be hell, the OT can spiral out of control when teething. When awake we found our dd loved frozen pureed fruit, I made them in lolly molds and would hold them for her if she needed my help, they really helped numb the gums. Bonjela also helped, there is one for teething babies, it was like we needed a full arsenal of ammunition  Our dd was such a terrible teether that a lot of it was just damage contol not to have an outrageously OT kid after the teeth would finally come through 

(((hugs)))it is so hrad but I promise one day it will all be a distant nightmare 

[Mashi]

I agree on the amber necklace, they are great! I also find that when they are at the edge of the surface that is when bonjela or orajel works best...it numbs the surface really well!

[Smurfette]

Thanks ladies.

I think I might try those necklaces.

How much should I try cutting her A times down to? She is 7 months and can stay up about 2.50hrs. We were getting so close to dropping the cat nap, but not this week.

[skatty]

I really can't remember how much we dropped but it was a fair bit, she napped in her pushchair outdoors or in the conservatory so her winddown was chilling out on her own so I would put her down early and she would fall asleep. Maybe you could try after 2.30hrs?

[Smurfette]

Got the necklace.
So last night we did necklace, camilia and advil and she still woke up 8:15, 10pm (DF), 1:45, 4:08 and then was up for the day this morning at 6. Ugh. THe good news is that we were able to get her back to sleep very fast, in about 2 mins and she woke up this morning happy, so that's good.

However yesterday she was up at 6:15 am but didn't go to bed until 7:22...I'm guessing this was too long of a day? I tried cutting her catnap short by 10 mins, dunno if that did anything. She seemed really cranky after that and we only kept her up an hour and a half after that.

 I just don't know how to get her to bed at a decent 12 hour day/time with a catnap. If we drop it she's going to bed at 5:30pm and I'm terrified she will then wake at 5:30 or 5 to start her day! Then what?
Her naps are only about an hour and a half  or less, so it's hard to stretch the day out. I have been able to extend her naps, but with the teething going on, once she's up, I think there is too much discomfort to go back to sleep.

Is it normal for teeth to take this long to pop? Other ppl have about 3 bad nights and that's it. We are going on about a week with me being able to see the outline but still not cutting through.

I should add that last weekend after going to the hospital twice in 24 hours, she was finally dianosed with a urinary track infection and spent about 8 hours awake/in pain/crying/fever/shivers and threw up during the night...is it possible that on top of teething she is still having NWs due to OT from last weekend?
She is definitely more comfortable now as she is laughing and babbling during the days so I don't *think* there is abdominal pain anymore, so that would just leave OT and teeth.
Arg.
Sorry for the ramble.

[skatty]

The necklace doesn't work instantly 

We had terrible teething episodes that would last weeks, in fact we were teething more often than not and dd's teeth took ages to break through and would break through and go back up in the gum, so frustrating, some kids are just really bad teethers 

I don't think it is possible to do a 12 hr day with a catnap, IMO I would try the 5.30pm bedtime but that is because my dd has always gone to bed early due to being a bad napper, until about 2 months ago she was still going to bed at 5.30pm and she is 4, she stays up late now, 5.45/6.00pm lights out  You wont know unless you try but in my experience early bedtime is the only way to catch up on OT.

[lilybug25]

My daughter is 16 months and only has 4 full teeth out and 2 half ones, she teething like crazy right now and I just ended up putting her to bed as nothing will calm her down ( I gave her a frozen teething toy first and even that didn't help). I have had more "bad teething" days then goos in the last 7 months, so HUGS and I fell your pain.
My daughter also does 5:30 BT's, sometime it's 7-7:30pm but that never ends good. When she's teething bad (like today) she will have a long nap and a early BT, it really does cut down on the NWings.

[Smurfette]

Ok, so yesterday was the first time in forever that we didn't have any early night wakings!
She was up at 6 am, 1st nap 8:30 for an 1hr and 50 mins (woo hoo!), which I went in twice to help extend cause she woke at the 30min mark.

2nd nap at 1:30 (3hrs 10 min of A time!) She woke at the 45 min mark but I got her back asleep right away. She then cried 10 mins later and I got her asleep again and stayed in the room out of sight. I accidentaly snapped a photo (twice!) with my cell phone trying to see the time in the dark and woke her again (oops!) at 2:45 but got her asleep again until 3:18!

So no catnap and an early betime of 6:15 pm. We gave her Camilia then too but no Advil as she was so happy through the day.

She woke after 30 mins (is it possible she just thought it was a catnap?) and I was out doing errands.
 My DH left her but she got progressively worked up, sobbing. So he gave her Advil and she went out instantly.
He did the DF at 10:15 and she slept until 1:30am....which is when, I'm guessing the Advil wore off... so we gave more.
She then cried at 2am,2:15, 3:22 (gave Camilia) and 3:29 but then slept until 6:30 this morning!

So my questions are
1. Why did she nap so well through the day without meds? Is it b/c it's a shorter time span?
2. Why did she instantly settle once DH gave her the Advil at 6:45 pm but yet it took over 2 hrs to really settle in the middle of the night? Do you think it's because the Camilia was already in her system?
3. Is there any way to avoid habitual night wakings with teething? I'm worried that this is becoming a habit b/c although she is chewing on things during the day, she is SO happy and doesn't seem to be in pain....is that just how it goes?

THanks for the suggestion on early bedtime. I'm not sure I would've had the confidence to try it. My husband was VERY doubtful but I read all of your posts to him, ladies and I think that helped convince him.
At least she didn't wake in the early evening!

Here's hoping today is similar!

[willowonyx]

Smurfette,

I just wanted to say that I am going through the same thing, to the "T". Our 8 month old DD has been teething for a month now, one tooth has half way popped through on the bottom and it seems like she is chewing every inch of her mouth. Your night last night has been our night for the last 4 nights....with a few more wakings.

We are at a loss or I would provide some help. Advil does not seem to help her no matter what.....not even combined with Oragel.

So, maybe if people respond to your post, I will get help as well.

[skatty]

I think by the time they wake up in the early hours of the morning with teething it has really got bad, you know like when you have slight period pains, ignore them and go to bed then wake in the night and take painkillers but they take ages to kick in and you wish you took them when the pain first started  Maybe you could try timing it by giving some PK before bed and then again with the DF, we didn't do a DF but when we knew dd was teething badly we would DF her some milk with meds just before we went to bed, well when DH went to bed which would be around midnight, this would totally eliminate those long teething NWs 

I reckon she napped better because she is exhausted after the NWs and also teething pain builds up the longer you are lying down and isn't necessarily just mouth pain but pressure in the ears so not so much time to happen at naptime.

I don't think you need to worry about habitual NWs, I used to always worry but things always went back to how they were before. The pain is definitley worst at night whilst lying down with nothing to distract them, totally normal 

Willowonxy, have you also tried giving the Advil before the pain gets really bad? It makes a massive difference, I know how it is feeling like you shouldn't give meds until you know they really need it but they wors best if given early 

[Smurfette]

Hugs to you Willowwonyx! Maybe this forum should create a 'Teething' board for those of us that have bad teethers! Lol.

DD only napped an hour..*sigh* but woke happy and I couldn't extend. I guess I could've done more A time but so scared to get her OT again.

[Smurfette]

Skatty- We give Advil which you're only suppose to give every 6-8 hours. We were going to give at the DF instead but b/c I was out and she was crying so hard, DH gave at 6:45pm. So then we couldn't give it again until after 12:45.

Perhaps that's something we can try tonight if the stars and moon align.

[skatty]

Oh, that must be something stronger than they sell in the UK, I thought it was the same as Nurofen which can be given every 4-6hrs, have you tried alternating paracetomel and ibu, it means that you don't have to let anything completely wear off before redosing so maybe paracetomel at bedtime, Ibu fro the DF and if you are up for at least a few hours after that then some more paracetomel before you go to bed.

[Smurfette]

Advil is ibuprofen (6-8 hrs). I think paracetomel is Tylenol (4-6 hrs). We haven't tried alternating since before we knew she had the bladder/ UT infection, so maybe that's something to try again. Thanks for the reminder.