Author Topic: Mucous poops are back...GP today. What to say? (Read 3450 times)

~Emma~ · « **on:** April 28, 2011, 19:15:31 pm »

Dylan is almost 7 months now and we are winding down the BF'ing now. She is having 2 x bottles of formula a day and eating solids like a champ. She is still on the breast 3 x a day though and once in the early morning.

For the past 3 days we have had really explosive mucousy poops and horrendous wind. I had questioned intolerances when she was a tiny bub but never went down the road of ED but did however really cut back on my dairy intake, although not dairy free.

I dont really know what to make of this. Am I worrying over nothing? Could it just be the solids causing her wind which is causing the mucous poops?

Buntybear · « **Reply #1 on:** April 29, 2011, 17:50:09 pm »

It could be intolerances, it could be teething, it could be a bug etc. If it has been 3 days I would monitor it a few more days before taking any foods out.

Buntybear · « **Reply #2 on:** May 01, 2011, 22:17:24 pm »

Hi Emma, how are things now?

~Emma~ · « **Reply #3 on:** May 02, 2011, 08:11:32 am »

Still mucousy poops. Although some worse than others. Her skin on her face cleared up in the last 3/4 weeks ( being in the sunshine perhaps?) but her body has got worse. Same old patches but just flared up and looking a wee bit angry. I've not changed washing powders but we do have a new washing machine and have moved to a different part of the country so perhaps the water? (clutching at straws here!)

I dont know what to make of it really. She's OK in herself aside from the gas giving her a wee bit of gip.

shivi · « **Reply #4 on:** May 02, 2011, 08:26:06 am »

huge hugs Emma}}}{{{

When did you start the extra FF? Maybe its the extra formula?

S x

Buntybear · « **Reply #5 on:** May 02, 2011, 08:36:24 am »

OK, so mucous for a week now? Did she have it before or just this week? Eczema flaring up and increased wind def means a reaction for us. Is she on a hypo allergenic formula?

~Emma~ · « **Reply #6 on:** May 02, 2011, 08:43:47 am »

Nope just regular formula. Been doing the FF for a couple of months now and added a second one in less than a week ago. Started solids 3 weeks ago.

I just dont know. I went through this when she was a teeny bub and concluded it was my oversupply at the time ( explosiveness) coupled with her run of snotty illnesses ( mucous). OS is not an issue now for sure hence the FF as I am struggling to maintain supply.

You know what puts me off thinking about it? Trying to get a bloody GP to listen when she is perfectly happy otherwise kwim? It would seem pointless to me to cut dairy out of her diet when she is getting it loads in her formula kwim?

shivi · « **Reply #7 on:** May 02, 2011, 08:46:09 am »

I think intolerance COULD flare moving from one to two bottles FF per day though? Could you try hypoallergenic and see if it makes a difference?

S x

Buntybear · « **Reply #8 on:** May 02, 2011, 08:47:28 am »

I was going to say that Shivi - too much of a coincidence adding the 2nd bottle and the mucous flaring? What do you think emma? Does it co-incide?

~Emma~ · « **Reply #9 on:** May 02, 2011, 08:52:55 am »

Well it could be the second bottle or the solids. Started giving both in the last couple of weeks.

Perhaps I should just continue on the breast BUT my supply is just dwindling and I had made the decision to stop as I was stressing about it. Thing is she feeds as normal for her afternoon feed THEN has a bottle and guzzles it.

I hate even saying it but we are not in the best financial position atm. i dont even think we could afford hypoallergenic formula. I've heard its expensive. How bad do I feel.

Lolly · « **Reply #10 on:** May 02, 2011, 09:00:14 am »

Emma - if you can get your Dr to agree, hypoallergenic formula is only available on prescription so you won't pay for it. Both my two have had their reflux formula on prescription and that is available to buy - saved me a fortune

Laura

Hedgehog17 · « **Reply #11 on:** May 02, 2011, 09:07:05 am »

Quote from: ~Emma~ on May 02, 2011, 08:52:55 am

i dont even think we could afford hypoallergenic formula. I've heard its expensive. How bad do I feel.

Don't worry Emma, if she needs it she can get it on prescription, so it's free!

Unfortunately you'll have to get the GP to agree to prescribe it first..

Buntybear · « **Reply #12 on:** May 02, 2011, 09:40:59 am »

Also, what foods have you introduced??

~Emma~ · « **Reply #13 on:** May 02, 2011, 11:51:53 am »

Mostly just fruit and veg. The last 3-4 days she has had cheese in some dishes as I start to mix things up a bit. Cauli cheese puree etc kwim? All the usual stuff really. She has weetabix or baby porridge for breakfast made up with cows milk. Just doing the same as I did with B really....

Buntybear · « **Reply #14 on:** May 02, 2011, 12:07:19 pm »

Well if it were me I would be questioning a dairy intolerance but you know your daughter better than I do! Mucous, diarrhea, wind, eczema flares... personally I would be down the docs for some HAF and taking dairy out of solids and your diet. Try it for a couple of weeks and then you will know for sure. HTH

~Emma~ · « **Reply #15 on:** May 02, 2011, 12:26:04 pm »

I'm taking her this week for sure. If for nothing else this eczema is getting bad and the creams she has just arent touching it anymore.

Thanks ladies as ever.

Jimbob · « **Reply #16 on:** May 02, 2011, 18:32:16 pm »

It would definitely be worth trying to get the gp to prescribe a hypoallergenic or elemental formula so you can see if it makes a difference. Of course it is possible that its not a dairy allergy or intolerance but with the symptoms and timing its a definite possibility.

~Emma~ · « **Reply #17 on:** May 03, 2011, 12:10:24 pm »

I have an appointment with my GP today. I dont knw what to say really. Thing is the exzema flare has gone way down, its still there by all means but not as nasty and raised as it was. her poops arent as bad either. I just hate going and saying ''well it was worse a couple of says ago.' I feel like an idiot! The alst 2 days though I have gone back to plain fruit and veg for solids. Could that have made a difference? Could it just have been a weird phase?

She was however up almost all night last night with gas. It was awful for her. She clocked only 5.5 hours broken nightsleep. It was like she just wanted to suckle to get the gas out if that makes any sense?

Any ideas on how to approach the GP?

Buntybear · « **Reply #18 on:** May 03, 2011, 12:23:41 pm »

Emma, so pleased you are going to see the GP. It is very hard with this kind of thing as there are not always symptoms like the eczema that you can say - here is the problem, sort it. At 15 months I still haven't really gone down the route of going to the GP and saying Olly nevers sleeps through because of gas as I feel they will laugh in my face.

I would say everything you have told us. There IS eczema (doesn't matter it is getting better now - it was there and may be well come back if the cause is not found), mucous, diarrhea, gas. Tell your GP about last night. That is NOT right.

At the end of the YOU have to believe there is something wrong and persuade your doctor.

Olly has always been a happy baby yet he has wheat, egg and milk allergies. You wouldn't belive it to look at him yet DH and I are the ones that are up with him for hours at night.

Hope the pep talk is helping. Our GP is brilliant and always listens to us but I know not all GPs are like that. (he is great but I still can't face going tand saying my baby doesn't sleep through

)

You going in there and fight for what you want (do youknow what this is??!)

~Emma~ · « **Reply #19 on:** May 03, 2011, 12:32:07 pm »

Thats the thing. I'm her voice. The pep talk IS working! I had to do it for DS and his reflux ( looking back I do think intolerances may have been playing a part there too...) I can just remember the months of back and forth and I knew what I was talking about about because of the support here kwim?

I am wary of mentioning sleep. The thing is night time is the worst. Its like it would be ok for me to mention the fussiness if it was during the day but because its at night the GP might think I'm after a quick fix to sleep. She's a happy bub during the day for the most part. If she were a consistant bad sleeper then I'd take my bad luck and run with it but she's not, she'll happily do 10-12 hours if nothing's bothering her.

Quote from: Buntybear on May 03, 2011, 12:23:41 pm

You going in there and fight for what you want (do youknow what this is??!)

No! I dont. I want a happy bub and something tells me she's not comfortable. I want to get to the bottom of this skin issue and not treat around the cause.

Buntybear · « **Reply #20 on:** May 03, 2011, 12:46:08 pm »

As I say totally understand about the night sleep thing. Even my Dad talks about letting him cry.... err NO!

I think your first step would be a HA formula. Prob Nutramigen to start? Or even Aptamil Pepti. I EBF so don't know much about HAFs. I assume you don't think reflux as no spitting up?

Our GP referred us straight to a allergist when we first went but that might be a stpe too far for you at the mo.

If you do get the HAF then a total elimination of dairy to follow?

Course I am no GP - I am just talking from expereinces I have heard of on this forum xx

Jimbob · « **Reply #21 on:** May 03, 2011, 18:46:28 pm »

How did the appointment go? It is so hard dealing with issues like this and many GP's have little knowledge in these areas.

~Emma~ · « **Reply #22 on:** May 03, 2011, 19:23:03 pm »

Mmmm, well dont know what to think really. He was older, running late and getting very wee'd off with a spirited 2 year old running about!

He said he could tell that the eczema had been bad over the last few days and prescribed me some hydrocortisone for it. He then said that regarding the feeding issues I should speak to my HV. I refused this and said I wasn't happy with that as it was ultimately mean me going back and forward between HV and GP. I also said I wasn't clear on exactly what a HV would have to offer on the situation. He got a bit snippy and bluntly asked what it was I would like him to do. I said a HA formula would be the first route to go and he wrote me a script for Aptamil Pepti ( which I had to suggest). I was taken off guard and although I ultimately got what I wanted I feel a little overwhelmed with everything. I dont feel very supported and feel like I have made this HUGE decision for my baby without having a health professional tell me that it may well be the cause of her skin, gas, poos etc etc

C&B&E · « **Reply #23 on:** May 03, 2011, 20:02:14 pm »

I think the hard thing is that GPs very often do not actually have much in-depth knowledge of this stuff - particularly if they trained a long time ago. (That's not me being down on doctors, more just an acknowledgement that he probably has not ever really been taught about this stuff and so may know little more than you.) If the formula doesn;t make a difference perhaps it is time to ask for a referral to a paediatrician (sp), as they will have lots more specialist knowledge and will likely have seen many other similar cases.

x

Buntybear · « **Reply #24 on:** May 03, 2011, 21:27:35 pm »

I was about to say the same thing as Claire. They are not paeds and really this is quite specialist stuff when you get down tho the nitty gritty - esp when advice changes all the time. Guess that is why he wanted to check with the HV.

Glad you got the HAF milk. You may need to introduce it slowly at first, maybe mixed in with the normal milk? Not sure what Pepti tastes like.

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