Help needed with A times and naps UPDATED We're in a mess :(

[Shiv52]

I think that CN is well on its way out which is great as things are much easier when you are settled in to two naps.  She is doing amazingly well.  I would maybe stick with 2.50 tomorrow ?  Am pleased the first nap is 1.5 hours....thats what we like to see!  It could be after should a good nap she was ready for more A time.

Do you think it would be better to leave her first A 2.40 tomorrow and do the second one 2.50 and see how the nap goes?  If you get a day like today I think you are wise not bothering with the CN as it makes the day so long.

Again very happy at BT, cooing, laughing, blowing raspberries right up until she went to sleep.

Too cute!!!!!

[cuckoochick]

Great! I will follow your advice as don't want to blow the day out with OT first thing and then be stressful as ILs are coming for lunch. I've said it needs to be an early one so I can be back for DD's nap! Now watch the law of sod and she will wake up super early or do a short first nap which she hasn't done in over a month!!!!

So 2hr40 1st A and then 2hr 50ish for 2nd all being well.
Thank you for your continued support. It is so nice to know I can come here for advice as it stops me going quite so mad analysing everything!

[cuckoochick]

Hi!

Just wanted to update you. We stretched C to 2hr 50 first A today and she did a 1hr 20 nap but then for her 2nd nap with 2hr 50 A she did an UT nap that DH couldn't extend while I was out. Going to go for 3hr A time tomorrow and fingers crossed!

Will let you know how it goes over the next few days! Thanks again!

[Shiv52]

How did she get on when you were out? 

Hope the 3 hours goes well.  Are you aiming for no CN then? 

[cuckoochick]

Hi Shiv,
She was fine after all that worry! Yeah, poor DH was so stressed that I would be frantic when I came home after she only napped for 45 minutes for her 2nd nap but we gave her a CN and put her to bed a little later and so far she is quiet.

I think if we can get 2 x1.5 hour naps which we have been getting on 3hr A we'll not have the catnap but again, it seems to be the 2nd nap that is the crunch point. After that short 45 minute nap, we tried to put her down after 2hrs 10 minutes for CN but she resisted and went down at 2.5hrs, CN for 45 mins and then had a 2.5hrs A time to bed.

Do you think that sounds ok? I think she is ready for 3hrs A time to be honest as we're only 10 minutes away and the 2nd A time is tricky. In some ways, getting an OT nap of 30mins is ok as 9 times out of 10 I can resettle her and then she will do at least another hour. Anyway, we can only but try as today is the first time in nearly a week she had a CN but that was as her 2nd nap was short. Yesterday she had a 2hr 30 minute nap for her 2nd as she'd had a short one in the morning on a 2hr 45 A time. So my gut tells me she'll be good with a 3hr A time.

Well, I can only but try! She has had such massive developmental leaps in the last few weeks it is unbelievable. Is 3hrs too much for her to be on at the beginning of 6 mos?

Thanks!

[Shiv52]

So my gut tells me she'll be good with a 3hr A time.

Mummies know best!! 

If she's just be through a big developmental leap that often comes with needing more A time so I'd say she is good to go with 3 hours.  It will be so much easier for you going back to work too if she is on two naps.  That'll be easier for MIL to maintain too. 

Is she 6 months today?!

[cuckoochick]

Yep my little chop is 6 months today!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I cannot believe how quickly it has gone by and how much she has come on in the short space of a few weeks!

Poor DH, I think he was expecting me to have a meltdown over the short nap but I did say I was thinking 2hr 50 was not going to work but we were just trying to stick with what we've got! I can't believe in the space of a fortnight I've extended her A times by an hour! Mind you, she'd needed to move from 2 hours for ages which was causing all the problems!!! 

Thank you and I hope I can report 2 good naps tomorrow!

[Shiv52]

Fingers crossed!  And if not you do a CN and its not the end of the world.

You are sounding a lot more relaxed now about the naps.  I hope you feel it! 


Happy 6 months Charlotte!!!!

[cuckoochick]

To be honest, I have good days and bad days and can easily become hysterical about her naps so yes, I'm hoping this EASY tweak might see us good for a week at least! Will try to find some time to post over on PPD tomorrow with an update as going to get myself off to bed now! Thank you my lovely!

[Shiv52]

 

Hope you get a good night! 

[cuckoochick]

Things have gone crazy here. I don't know what is going on, if I have pushed DD to drop the catnap before she is ready. I am not sure if all this is prop related, teething, milestones or coming down with illness (I have a rotten cold) as we have so much going on. DD is handling the 3hr A times really well and napping well. Has resisted bedtime a little in the last few days but is doing loads of NWings, mostly settling easily but I just do not understand what is going on.

Here are yesterday's and today's EASYs:

Wed
Awake and E 6:30
A 3hrs
S 9:30-10:55 (1hr 25 mins)
E 10:55
A 3hrs
S 1:55-3:20 (1hr 25)
E
A
E
S 6:35 (A = 3hr 20 mins)
NW 7:30 settled easily within 2 minutes
NW 8:30 as above
NW 11pm as above
NW 1:30- DH tried to settle, wouldn’t settle, I fed then still wide awake until 2:30
NW 4:30 settled easily with patting
NW 5:55 settled easily with patting
Awake 6:50



Thurs
Awake and E 6:50
A 3hrs
S 9:50- 11:30
E
A 3hr 35 (wouldn’t settle at 3hr mark so took out and then went to try again)
S 3:05- 4:20 (Was sure she'd be OT and wake at 30 min mark but didn't)
E
A
E
S 7:05 (A= 2hr 45 mins)


Urgh, any ideas? I'm pretty sure she's teething as she has been so grouchy during the daytime as well, biting down on things and shouting, drinking loads of water, not feeding well today. Have given calpol before bed and teething gels. She also keeps doing the rolling thing and waking herself up. Part of me thinks this is prop related as she relies on me getting her to sleep and staying with her for naps. I know I need to address this and it has been my full intention to once I got our EASY sorted but we're in such a mess. Have I pushed her too much too soon?

[clairebear79]

Hiya

Just wanted to say hang in there!!!  We went through a stage of loads of NW's when DS was rolling onto his tummy in his sleep.  It would wake him up & he would really cry & we'd have to go in & roll him back onto his back.  After a couple of weeks of doing this he started to get really angry when we rolled him back, even though he was crying at being on his tummy!!!  Within a week, we realised maybe he'd like to sleep on his tummy & we left him to it!!!

It could almost definitely also be related to teething too.  Has she got any teeth yet?  DS got his first 2 at 5 months, and the remaining 6 all came at once over a period of 2 weeks at 8 months.  That was a really hard time & we had tons of NW's then too.  Just keep her topped up with meds & use teething gel before milk & solids as you may find she goes off them a bit.  Some BW'ers give meds as a dream feed in the night, so she will be dosed up for that early part of the morning, as I believe this is the time when they usually wake up in pain.

As for props - I've not got much advice I can offer on that really but if she is struggling to sleep independently maybe ask for some help on the props board?

HTH.xx

[Shiv52]

{{{{hugs}}}

I don't think you've pushed too soon.  Naps look good and if she's handling the A times well thats great.  I do think it could be related to her rolling.  When M learned to pull to standing our sleep was disrupted for weeks.  Flipping nightmare.

I also think it is a prop issue though.  With her needing you to get her to sleep and stay for naps if she is waking when rolling she doesn't have the skills she needs to get back to sleep and is probably looking around for you.  I think your EASY is probably as good as you are going to get it for the meantime and it may be time to start working on getting her to settle a bit better on her own.  I know she generally is a good night sleeper so she has never really had to get herself back to sleep if she wakes and I'd be concerned if she's wakening now with rolling or teeth she doesn't have the skills to get herself back to sleep even if you just go in and reassure her and leave again. KWIM? 

Do you feel you are ready to tackle this yet? 

{{{hugs}}} YOu are doing great xxx  We had an awful time with sleep when M learned to pull to standing...ugh! 

[cuckoochick]

Thanks ladies, even with that short A time she woke 4 times last night. For 3 DH literally picked her up and she fell straight back to sleep. She was always crushed up against the cot bars so  it is definitely a rolling/prop issue.

I have a terrible cold, achey bones and temperature so right now I'm not able but as soon as I feel better and hopefully C will not catch it we're going to have to go for it. The thing was she would often settle herself in the night before we moved her into her own room but that unsettled start with the cold and everything means I have been over anxious and  so not given her the chance.

My gut does tell me she's fine with the A times and it's not an OT issue yet, except maybe for me!

[Shiv52]

{{{{hugs hun}}}}

Really hope you feel better soon xx

Don't put yourself under pressure to teach independent sleep until you are ready. I agree the NWs are related to the rolling so even if you had an independent sleeper she'd probably still need some help to get herself back into a comfy position.   Yes if she was settling on her own she probably could get herself back over some of the times but there would still be times she needs help.  Its funny how developmental milestones play such havoc.  I remember walking into M's room one night and she was fast asleep and as I walked across the room she sat bolt upright and then stood up, still sleeping!  And then she woke and was all confused and started crying.  Poor wee mite.  So I do think the rolling is your main culprit here especially seeing as she's going straight back to sleep.

Least its the weekend.  Hope DH can take over (good for him for doing the NWs!) and you can get a chance to get better this weekend xxx