5:30 am wake-up for 6.5 month old!

[mmom]

What was your routine like yesterday?

[*Kara*]

*kara* that is EARLY!!!  I don't know how you made it through the day.....

Tell me about it!  450am today.  I have learned to go to bed by 9pm   She has been up at 5am for over two months now.  I think I might lose my mind!

[mmom]

Kara, do you have a thread going that we can help you on?   I know EWs are tough.  I have chronic EWs too.

[*Kara*]

I sure do!

http://babywhispererforums.com/index.php?topic=211019.msg2229761#msg2229761

Thanks for any help you can give - I am at a total loss...

[Ollie76]

mmom - I can't actually remember my schedule from the other day (I'm think I'm a little over-tired these days)!!  I had a little success this morning - she started to wake at 5:45 but didn't really cry out for me until 6:30.  Just doing her typical rustle around-in-the-bed thing.  Weird.  Anyways, here's what was different:

1. she didn't sleep much yesterday b/c we were out most of the day. 
2. she had her catnap again
3.  I made her room a little warmer
4.  I gave her meds in the middle of the night
5.  I darkened her room even more (as in I taped her blinds to her windows). Can you say determined???

Just wondering what made the difference. She didn't have her catnap today - let's see what happens tomorrow. 

*kara* I read your link.  How are things?  Are you using a paci?  We are and, in the back of my mind, I wonder if it has hindered my LO from being able to put herself back to sleep on her own......we only plug 1 or maybe 2x/night but my eldest daughter never had one and I never had these issues.

[mmom]

Ollie, what is your bedtime then?  Naps, overall sleep, and especially the last A to bed really effect EWs.

[*Kara*]

We have a paci and I am starting to wonder the same thing about it being an issue now.  I know it hasn't been in the last as she would still STTN without it, but I wonder if she is dependent on it during those early hours?  She can't plug herself yet.

We were up at 410 this morning... gross.

[Ollie76]

Her bedtime bottle has been about 7:30.  Last night I gave it to her at 7:00 - b/c she hadn't had a catnap.  She had 2- 2hour naps yesterday.  But, she woke screaming around 10:00 and again at 11:00 - not normal for her at all.....so Tylenol again.  But...I didn't hear from her again until 6:00/6:15 which is great for me.

Kara - there are days when I just want to throw that paci away!  My LO has no idea how to replug herself - probably b/c she doesn't have it during the day!  I guess I keep hoping that she will soon - and there are some good things about pacis.  I'm ok with 1 replug during the night - but if this early morning thing keeps happening (and today was not considered early morning) I would ditch it. 

[*Kara*]

I would do anything for a 6/615 morning!  I had to AP DD back to sleep... she finally gave up and went back to sleep at 515 and woke an hour later for the day... first nap was a complete nightmare... I think her first two teeth are coming in and it's making her unbearable in the sleep department!  The last 10 days have gone from fantastic to horrendous!

[mmom]

Ollie - What was the total day in EAS format?  I am wondering if since she may be teething and you are having those NWs so close to bedtime, if you will need to try an earlier bedtime.  sometimes they are able to handle the 3 hour A time, but their wake up is so early that they can't.  The day becomes too long.

((HUGS)) Kara.  Teething causes major SA and can really effect the mornings. 

[*Kara*]

((HUGS)) Kara.  Teething causes major SA and can really effect the mornings.

I think I just figured that out   It's tiring to have a teething baby LOL!  It's just weird, she was so independent in the sleep department until about 10 days ago... now she is super clingy and resistant... I have to help her fall asleep for every nap and at bedtime... she just freaks herself out with rolling and fidgeting about the crib now... she used to be put down awake for all naps and BT and would just fall asleep without a peep... not at all now!

[mmom]

We are getting OT now (sorry Ollie), but so much happens at this age and everything seems to change.  DS#1 was a mega EW like your LO.  I can't tell you how many of my mornings started at 4 or in that hour.  So I feel your pain. ((HUGS)) though.  I hope it passes soon.

[*Kara*]

It must be something about kids with moms named Kara

[Ollie76]

Here it is!

Wake - 6:00ish
E- 6:30 (bottle)
    7:30 (food)
S  8:50-10:45
E  11:00 (bottle)
    12:00 (food)
S  2:00-3:45
E  3:45 (bottle)
    5:15 (food)
7:00/7:15 bottle/bed

Just a side note - I mentioned it to my ped and he said lots of kids wake with the sunrise...ya, knew that.  He said "just like her cry." He made it sound so simple...if he only knew.  He doesn't have kids either. 

Kara - have you checked out the medical side of things?  Just to rule that out?  What about the meds in her sleep?

[mmom]

That day actually looks great and 6 am wake up with a 7 pm bedtime is not an EW.

I think a lot of doctors have an approach of insisting we go with the flow, unless something is seriously wrong. But obviously we are all here because we are not go with the flow moms.

Since your routine looks good, I am wondering about teeth too.  Or, and I am going to contradict myself here, your LO likes a shorter A to bed?   I guess I keep holding on to the NWs so close to bedtime.  They just stand out as OT to me.