Nws + EWs + short nights are back.What do I do with this kid????

[Grants]

Btw love your avatar . lol

[koe2moe]

Hi grants, just caught up with the latest.  First off, go with your instinct.  We all know that mama's instincts are the best, ask Laura . Shall we try cutting nap to 45mins, and moving bt to 8:30?  I am also trying to move DS's bt earlier but I do notice every time making major shift, like more than 30mins, I would get a lot more problems, like major tantrum/refusal at bt, ending up in tears for all of us, well not literally but ykwim. 

Or cut it down to 30 mins and bt at 8:15?  Xx

[Grants]

Hi Koe!
I will wait at least 2 or 3 weeks before doing anything.I don't want to make changes right now as I have already made major changes with routine. I will give him a break for now. Poor kid. lol

BTW I saw in Laura's thread that you already have a very late BT. Does your lo have naps? If so, for how for long does he nap for? 

[Grants]

Seriously what is going on? M had his 1 hour nap as usual today . He had a super busy day . I even took him swimming this afternoon. I tried putting him down at 8 pm and he is not going down. He is happy and chatty . No signs of tiredness at all?? What is going on ? I took him out of his cot and switched the groclock back on as there is no way this kid is going to go to sleep anytime soon. The thing is he def needs his nap. I can't imagine him not having a nap. How weird? Is that the beginning of 1-0 ? How do I deal with this ?

[babybarr]

You don't think it's adrenaline kicking in from not enough sleep?   Perhaps you could try a no nap day and an early night and see what happens?

[huby]

I gave my lo a half hour in the car today. Awake by 1. 30pm and she fell asleep for the firsttime in weeks in ten mins without crying and fussing and that was at seven. Will let u know how it goes. Xx

[Grants]

It could be Laura. I think he was just making fun of me really. Dh took him to bed 15 mins after I tried and he fell asleep. I seriously can't manage a day with no nap. That's one thing I'm 100% sure we can't do. Perhaps he is not ready for 1-0 yet as I  know many kids who actually refuse their nap. M hasn't refused it yet. He can keep on going as he can handle A times better now that he is older but as soon as I do a quiet time or put him the pushchair or car seat etc at nap time he is off in seconds.

[koe2moe]

BTW I saw in Laura's thread that you already have a very late BT. Does your lo have naps? If so, for how for long does he nap for?

Hey Grants, sorry for not replying earlier.  DS is definitely having naps for about 1h40 and back to sleeping 11h but at bt 9pm, or sometimes 11h30!  But we had 5:30 EWs plus multiple NWs from 8-23mo!  Suddenly at 23 mo, he was sleeping longer if I could put him down at 7pm and not a min late, almost 12h nights with 2h nap.  That lasted a good few months and then things just changed again.  He was basically on a total A time of 10h and then he could sleep 12h at night and now he can go on much longer and can handle OT with minor NWs that I can deal with and go back to sleep!  But it is very hard to have decent A time now as he is waking up so late! 

So I think DS was just OT all those months constantly, so I couldn't tell anymore if he's behaving differently.  Once he's sleeping more, he has become much happier and much easier to handle.  I really couldn't believe that he could sleep so long.  We had a rough 3 weeks abo ut 2 weeks ago that he had very short nights again, so it was tantrums after tantrums.   It could be due to teeth and/or chickenpox.

How was today?

[babybarr]

How are things?  Hoping you are at least still getting STTN.

[Grants]

Thanks for asking ladies

I’m having a hard time with everything atm. M’s behaviour is shocking! Everything is a battle!  (it started before the teething and the pain is just not helping the matter). NWs are back as he is teething (there is nothing I can do about the NWs now ). EWs are gone but now he is going to bed too late. I want to change this but I need to wait for the teeth to come through  first . He needs at least 6.5 A time before BT .  Early BT used to work when he was younger but now it is impossible to do it as he def needs his A time before going to bed.

Oh well what can you do?!?!?!   

[babybarr]

Can you try and earlier nap - also I would def let him nap longer than the hour.

[Grants]

If I give him the nap earlier he might go back to his Ews again though. We put a lot of effort in shifting his day and he is finally napping later than he used to be. I'm worried we might regress again if he naps earlier. He needs 6.5 hour A time with 1 hour nap god knows how long he can keep going with a longer nap?? I think we are kind of stuck ATM.

[babybarr]

What does his day look like?  How long is he sleeping at night and is it straight through/

[Tweakster]

I think it's a second wind at bedtime.  Really 6.5 hrs is a really super long time.  My kid included, super low sleep needs.  He can only do it if we keep him stimulated enough and keep going.  But that's because he's full of adrenaline and those hormones that push through tiredness.  We are super struggling on a short nap here as it is.  It is fine for a day or so and then the behaviour gets shocking and things go a$$ over teakettle. 

I know you are trying to curb the EW, believe me I tried everything too, but sometimes you have to accept the short night/long nap combo until they are ready to make the shift.

(((hugs)))

[Mom to M&M]

I know you are trying to curb the EW, believe me I tried everything too, but sometimes you have to accept the short night/long nap combo until they are ready to make the shift.

(((hugs)))

ITA with Wendy - unfortunately this was the way with DD for a long time... HUGS