Nws + EWs + short nights are back.What do I do with this kid????

[Grants]

Laura, M doesn't really have a fixed wake up time. He can wake up anywhere between 6:10-6:50 am. The thing that is really nice is that he can go back to sleep in the morning now, something he has never done in the past. So he goes to bed between 8:20-8:40 pm and wakes up most days at 6:40am(if he wakes up before Mr Sunshine(6:30am) he goes back to sleep and we let him sleep past the clock if he will. He is doing an average of 10 hours night + 1 hour nap. He does STTN. Last night was really bad as he kept waking up in pain. But thank God he actually went to bed at 7:10 pm tonight. He def needs to catch up because of last night.

Wendy and Karen, thank you for the replies and encouragement.  . M's problem is not only EWs but also NWs. The only way I managed to stop the NWs was with 1 hour naps. I have tried everything in the past and didn't really want to give him 1 hour nap because of his age but this was the only thing which stopped the NWs. Before the 1 hour nap he would be awake for hours during each night due to UT, I now know. So long naps is not an option for us as this will def bring those horrible NWs back.I'd rather put him down earlier and I try it everything single night but he wouldn't have it but tonight thanks to the bad teething night he went down at 7:10am.

[Grants]

Sorry I meant to say tonight he went to bed at 7pm not 7am. lol

[Grants]

Terrible night again even though he went down at 7pm. He is medicated but it still doesn’t make a difference. Up at 5:50am this morning and went back to sleep until 6:10am.

He is going to nursery today and I left up to the carer to judge his nap time and length. I said to her that doesn’t matter what we do today with his nap he will still have NWs so he might as well have a good rest.

His behaviour was shocking this morning! He saw an empty pot of yogurt, I ate last night, on my bedside so he decided that he want one too. But he wanted to eat it upstairs all by himself. We said no as it would make a mess on the carpet. So we took him downstairs, sat him down and gave him his yogurt.He wouldn’t have it and cried for 35mins non-stop as he wanted to eat the yogurt on his own term!  Argh!! To top it off he had a major tantrum at nursery because I forgot to let him put his backpack on his peg Anyway I’m glad he has gone to nursery today. I couldn’t take him like that today. I had him the whole day yesterday and I’m knackered because of the behaviour. This morning I left nursery crying, I feel so drained. I never knew this was going to be so difficult. 

This behaviour thing is not even a sleep issue as he has been doing well on 1 hour nap for the last 2 months. It is def a developmental thing. He only does that to us. We spent last Sunday at the ILs and his behaviour was like a dream. It is just the teething pain which is not helping at all. So for now I will give him a good nap because of the teething and then I will need your help again to get back on track.     

[Grants]

Hi ladies, I have to be brief as I'm on the move and typing on my phone .
M was teething so I wasn't doing the 1 hour naps anymore. Last week I was letting him nap up to 2 hours. We learned a few weeks ago that M has to have the minimum of 6.5 hours A time before bed if we wanted to avoid BT drama. ( even when he was on 1 hour nap , with 2 hours nap is a bit harder to put him down but we enforced it anyway otherwise Bt was getting later and later). We accepted that.

Now he is having EWs again The problem is that he is also having short nights as he won't accept bed before 6.5 A time. I tried earlier nap and putting him to bed at 7am but then he was up at 5:30 am.

I thought EWs was shorted good wake up times only lasted for 2 weeks and are now Ews are back again ?? I don't know how to tweak anymore as his nap is as late as it can be ( to avoid EWs ) and his BT is also really late these days. ( 8 pm for a 1 hour nap and 9 pm for 2 hours nap ). Yesterday I asked nursery to give him s 1.5 hours nap and BT was at 8pm and he woke up at 5:40 this morning.

I appreciate suggestions .  Thank you for reading.x

[Grants]

Btw he is not teething anymore .

[Grants]

I also forgot to mention that Nws are also back. So last night he had 9.5 night sleep ( 8pm- 5:40 )but had a 1.5 hour Nw so leaving us with a 8 hours night if we count the long Nw. 

[huby]

Ouch, do you think it could have been the weather. LO was up for two hours the first bout of hot nights and then up four times the second but STTN last night. It was so uncomfortably hot in her room and she ended up with heat rash everywhere too. Just a thought? I really hope tonight is better for you x

[Mom to M&M]

I'm not sure Grants! Hugs though - will think on it and hope you can all get some rest soon.

[Grants]

Thanks for the hugs Karen
I'm hoping someone will have a suggestion soon. I asked nursery to give him another 1.5 hour nap today as I have no clue what to do and he actually needs to catch up a bit but he can't really nap for too long either otherwise BT will end up at  11pm or something silly. So I thought 1.5 was a good compromise??

[babybarr]

I wish I knew what to suggest... my feeling is he'll be like O until the nap is gone and we had a long NW last night too - obviously something in the air!  I think ours was down to preschool and OS as he was chatting away to himself, saying how he needs to go to the dr and then to the chemist to get his scription you can tell what he spends his life doing poor little thing! 

I would suggest that you go back to longer nap - stick with 1.5hrs and try and get it earlier and then your bedtime will hopefully be earlier - so maybe a noon nap and then 7.30pm bed?

[Mom to M&M]

I wonder if a lady named Traci that used to be here is still around at all. She had a son named Cole (and then a second son I believe) and no matter what she did, Cole still had sleeping/NW/EW issues. The general consensus was that he might just have these issues until he was ready to drop the nap. This was like 4 years ago and I'm not sure what ended up happening - I can try to find some old posts?

[Grants]

Ladies thanks for coming on:) I really need the support ATM . Laura I think it is really impossible to get M down any earlier at BT . He really needs his A times. If he was a bit older I would feel inclined to cut his nap altogether . Although he might be ready for it now as I have always had to push him on the transitions as he never seems to be ready/ know how to go through himself ?? I really don't know. I think I'm going to have to take one day at the time



Karen thank you soooooooo much for your kind offer. I would love to know what went on etc....

[Grants]

Btw sorry about your Nw Laura. Although I found it super sweet O's talking in his sleep. X

[Mom to M&M]

I did just find this old thread, Grants. I feel like more came after this though. Can keep looking... http://babywhispererforums.com/index.php?action=printpage;topic=92528.0

[Mom to M&M]

This is her profile - maybe something here can help you or you can PM her? http://babywhispererforums.com/index.php?action=profile;u=13190