need help deciding which sleep training method to choose

[KiusMum]

i dnt think theres much we can do w.r.t training if they r teething or sick..  they do need momma those times..for the nap today i will b trying to put him to bed straight after his story instead of rocking him for 5 - 7 mins which i do to get him sleepy..i think hes ready..hopefully it goes well..fingers crossed. i hope C and A give you some good quality night time sleep tonight.

[KiusMum]

i started new thread..think i need some new perspective on K issues ...heres the link..will keep u updated

http://babywhispererforums.com/index.php?topic=217064.0

[Bex09]

Sorry you are still having bad night Angela, so are we. Had a 2hr NW last night from 2am until 4am, I managed to creep out of the room, had been in bed 5 mins and C woke again crying! So I  just brought her in with us and she went straight to sleep. I put her back in her cot once she was asleep and she slept in until 8.30am this morning. Since she has been falling asleep independently her NW have actually got worse. I can hardly ever get away without PU during NW, no idea why things are so bad. Guessing it must be OT from her bad sleeps at daycare. Will take a look at your new thread too and follow along.

Babyrose how are things going? Are you still having bad nights too?

[babyrose]

bex09, i hate long NW yuck! are things any better with C's sleeping at nursery? A goes to sleep well, he will stand in his cot for ages chatting and pointing. i have to keep putting him down but just rub his back every now and then to help then he finally falls asleep by himself, we are eventually on our way!!

[KiusMum]

hi ladies...

sorry i hv been sick for the past 2 days hence culdnt post..things r pretty much the same here..i m giving pain meds for the teething but hes still waking up multiple times at night..last night was around 1.5 hr NW..and all the time his eyes were closed but he was v restless..like he culdnt put himself into that deep sleep..i checked his mouth n he does have his molars and i think even his premolars coming thru @ the same time..

babyrose..so happy for u..u r back on track..r u hving ne NW? bex09..hows C sleeping now?? nemore long NWs.. u know sometimes I wish I could take K to bed and he would sleep for the night..but even if i do that..he will wake up @ the exact same times that he gets up if he sleeps in the cot.. ..now how bad is that..

[babyrose]

kiusmum, sorry you havent been well its hard trying to get a good nights sleep when you have a lo aswell. im sure things will settle again. A is still waking but we still are bringing him in beside us for just now i couldnt face it b4. i planning on tackling these night wakenings nxt wk just building up to it. A's canines are on the way just now, one has just broke the gum the other still on its way.

i hope things settle down for you and you feel better soon.

[babyrose]

hi bex09 and kiusmum, how are things going for you both? A is still doing great still needs alittle help getting settled but actually falls asleep on his own! yipeee!!!

[KiusMum]

hi babyrose,

i m sooo happy for u..do u stay in the room till A falls asleep??  or walk out after he gets settled like bex09??
Kiyaan is doing good too..I now put him down after settling him( sing lullaby , rub his back or rock a little). Once in the cot..he might move around a bit depending on how tired he is and then @ 10 mins of patting or thumping the mattress he is asleep. He mostly sleeps on my hand though when hes in the cot, which i use to kind of bounce the mattress a bit and then i remove the hand once hes fallen asleep.

My next step is to give him little assistance once hes in the cot and try and see that he drifts off to sleep himself..Then will try moving away from the cot little by little. Its been 2 months since I restarted GW and I m happy with the results though very slow.

NWs are another problem though..we still have 2 -3 NWs..no progress with weaning the feed at all and no GW @ night..i m too tired..last night i slept with him on the spare bed in his room. Hes teething ..i think hes getting molars and canines together..  ..giving him meds before bedtime and sometimes in the middle of the night as well..i dint know when the NWs will stop..i hve almost lost hope that he will ever STTN...r u hving any NWs? how do u handle them??

bex09 how r things with u n C?? is she back to STTN?

[babyrose]

your doing great! its good seeing the results i know its slow but its worth it. maybe his mouth is bothering him and causing the NW'S? i ffel the same about A STTN i feel like its never going to happen again! but im sure it will.

NW'S for us i just bring him into bed with us im too tired to deal with sleep training in the middle of the night.

[Bex09]

Hi how are you both doing? Sounds like you are both making great progress. Babyrose are you able to WO now then and leave A to fall asleep on his own?

Well I have found out why C has been having such bad nights... she has cut another molar and I didn't even know, so she has had no pain meds or anything bless her. Because she wasn't crying at night but was just awake I didn't think she was in pain and she had no other signs of teething. The last 2 molars she cut we had screaming most of the night, dribbling, clingy, etc. Anyway at least I know now, so she has gone to bed dosed up tonight as last time it took a good week for her to get over it. Looks like the last molar is about to pop aswell, so we are probably in for at least another bad week.

On a good note though through all of this C has still been falling asleep on her own, so proud of her the little trooper. It was when she cut her molars last time that it all went wrong with the relaps to holding to sleep, so I am so pleased that we haven't gone back to square one this time. It has been about three weeks now of her falling asleep independently after I have left her room, so really hoping that we have FINALLY cracked it.

[KiusMum]

well last night seemed the worst so far..it was mostly my falut cos i allowed him to nap for aroudn 3.15 hrs in the afternoon and that led to a later bedtime + frequent NWS ( caused by the long nap + teething + looks like hes catching a cold)...aww.. he woke up like very hour or so..and then arund 4.15 he woke up screaming and crying.nothing culd console him..finally his dad gave him a cuddle and hugged him and walked arund the house with him..whihc calmed him down enough to drift to sleep..poor baby i m nt sure wht was going on..but today goign to be very very strict @ the length of his nap.not allowing to nap for more than 2 hrs..i m tryign to pull off the next step @ bedtime..that is him falling asleep with minimal assistance..right now all i can do is focus on bedtimes and naptimes..NWS r just useless..i just do what i can to get whatever sleep i can... 

[babyrose]

kiusmum that sounds awful, sounds like a mixture of things going on. your doing really well though concentrate one thing at a time.

A STTN last night and fell asleep with a tiny teeny help from just putting him down in his cot once!! ive always thought A was a low sleep needs baby and im hoping im right. he slept for 1.5 yesterday and i decided to keep his A time the same which im hoping will help his nights better FX for us all.

how things with u bex09?

[Bex09]

Hi to you both. Babyrose YAY!!! for the STTN... and you thought it would never happen again! lol. That is so fab, well done you and A. Hope last night was a good one too? I would have thought that A could still do his usual A time after a 1.5h nap, C certainly could, she tends to do the same A time whatever her nap or NT sleep has been like. I guess really I am doing set nap and set BT now... seems to work for us though and C knows where she is.

Angela, sorry that you are having such a rough time. The screaming and being unconsolable sounds like teeth to me. Hope K's sleep settles down soon and those teeth hurry up and come through. Hugs to you and sending sleep vibes.

C is doing great thanks. She STTN last night from 8pm until 7am, I heard her but didn't go in and she dozed on and off until 7.30am when she started singing to herself! lol. So either the pain meds worked or she is over the worst of the teething pain. Yay!!! Hope you all have a lovely weekend, with loads of sleep!

~ Becky x

[KiusMum]

Hi bex09,

thts so nice C STTN. ur r right.. she must be over her worst teething pain  .. good for u.. could you please let me know the exact timings of your nap during the day and the duration as well..our bedtime/awake time are very similar to yours..so wondering what your nap-length is..thanks from ur signature.. I guess C is almost 14 months old.

babyrose..awesumm A STTN..i m hoping next week i can say the same..i think i hve another week of NWS till his teeth break through and then hopefully i wont hve to worry anymore cos all of them will b thru ..hows triming the nap working for u?? I m thinking of trimming the nap a little as well and see how it affects the night sleep..Could you also let me know..how old is A?? Thanks.

[babyrose]

A is just cominh up for 16 months and hasnt STTN again after that night but im hoping to make a few changes with his routine to help. he seems more ready for his b/time that ive cut his nap. im sure those teeth will be through soon