This kid STILL does not stay in her bed

[nona]

You don't have to put her back into bed. Stan, we just ignored him and eventually (EVENTUALLY) he got in by himself.

this is basically what we did. my son kept waking up wanting another "tuck in". this would go on all night and we tried every trick in the book GW, WI/WO etc etc anyway, after we made our sleep rules, he got 2 tuck-ins so when he would wake and want another one, we'd say "remember the sleep rules" and that's all we would say. eventually we just said "no"  he got upset but after 3 nights, there was significant improvement and of course he started STTN again soon after. We started it on a weekend and my husband took the first 2 nights and then i dealt with him during the week. I wish we had done it sooner!

[Roseii]

Ok that is encouraging, thank you

Just ordered the gro clock on amazon as-well as a book called "When I'm Feeling Angry" to help her (hopefully) with her emotions...

[babybarr]

I agree with pps Charli!  You need to be firm and dead pan.  With the gro clock it's good for NWs too - sun's not on it's still night time (not that we've cracked it ) Tesco often sell them quite cheaply too.

I wouldn't go in to her or worry if she falls asleep on the floor, I think like Wendy has said she'll crash and not do it again.

[Tweakster]

Yeah I doubt she'll sleep on the floor.  Even Spirited 'give in' at some point when they realize that you mean business.  They don't like change so sleeping in their bed is what they know.  But if she does it's no the end of the world.  And I bet it would only happen on day 1.

I would remove anything that she can harm herself with of course, and if you are concerned about the window (I mean how high is the ledge?  can she get out of the window or is it sealed tight?  What's the worst that can happen, she'll fall off the ledge and probably won't do it again?) then can you block it off somehow/make it inaccessible?  Personally I'm not worried if Finn swings from the ceiling fan, it's bedtime and that's that.  If he hurts himself we'll hear the bang or he would certainly let us know (his cry would completely change). We're going to do all we can to make his room safe for him, but we can't worry about what 'might' happen.

Gro-clock is a great idea too!

[nona]

my DS would claim that he is unable to tuck himself in (can't get in bed, can't pull the blanket on top of him, etc). he would put on this big act like it was too hard to do any of this stuff. (quite hilarious now, we should have recorded it). we would say our line "remember the sleep rules" and it was rough the first night for sure but we would not go in the room. he didn't completely tear his room apart but he was pretty angry.  everything was said outside the door (our one line) through the gates and he did eventually put himself back to bed.

i (or Dh) slept on an air mattress in his room him for a few weeks and outside his door trying to deal with these issues. i was so depressed, had not slept next to DH in weeks. When we finally implemented the new "rules", he was STTN again within the week.

[Grants]

I have nothing to add Charli as you already had great advice!! I just want to send((( hugs)))) I know how persistent these little spirited can be. M has screamed 1.5 for 5 days in a row at BT when we tried WI/WO a few months ago. In the end we gave it up as the situation was not improving and the screaming and shouting was not diminishing. I can't imagine the whole screaming at NWs though. 

[M2M]

we used gates, 2 clear ones, one top of the other, to keep DS in his room when we were going thru a similar phase.  (he would crawl over just one of them). it worked great!

We did the same thing! worked great