NAET (Nambudripads Allergy Elimination Technique) and IgG testing

[Grants]

We all had our NAET appointments yesterday (Friday). I wasn’t planning to get DS treated, as I booked for him next week, but while DH was having his’ rest period’ for his treatment I asked the practitioner to test DS for Melatonin, just for fun. He was indeed very weak for it in all levels! So she treated him then and there as he was in a good mood! Next week I have a long list of things to test on DS for the eczema( Koe’s suggestions plus SLS and histamine) and she will also do the questioning about what to avoid for his eczema. I have a list for the eczema and a list for sleep issues. So I want to check Serotonin and Dopamine as well next week as it is part of my’ sleep issues’ list.

As for me…. I’m still detoxing from the drugs I have the first reaction in 2007. That’s why I’m feeling soooooo terrible all the time   she said it can take up to 3 months for my body to detox it all. So yesterday she treated me for’ Iron mix’, it has been on my list of allergies/imbalances but she hasn’t treated it yet as my priority is to treat my drugs allergies. Let’s see how it goes.   

When is your next appointment with NAET Koe and Eloise?

[koe2moe]

I had mine last thurs and then a huge allergic saga from fri.   Just wondering how
Eloise is?

[EloysH]

So she treated him then and there as he was in a good mood! Smiley

Yay!  Sounds promising.  Have you had any other appointments yet?  I would think that if someone has eczema, that foods should be looked at very closely as you are.

I didn't take Kai back to the NAET lady.   She has moved practices far away, and she is reluctant to keep treating him whilst he is on the meds.  

 I am getting as similar treatment done with the chiro anyway, she has the full  wad of suitacases used for NAET and does do NAET, but she is not trained by an official NAET school.   Anyway, the chiro treated Kai for chemical created in detoxing in the body,  (basically cleared the blockage) he is not making enough of it.... and prescribed a different B6 vitamin - pure liquid to take for 2 weeks to help his body produce more if it.  One theory behind food intolerance as that the bdoy doesn't have all the enzymes needed to detoxify foods properly  namely natural food chemicals, and thus the liver goes into over time as toxins build up.  So she wants to work on the detox cycle for a while.     I have to admit, his sleep has been even better since we switched to this supplement ( 2 weeks ago). We are nearly finished taking it and I am planning to go back in two days for follow up so see where he is at - well what his body says.  We will continue the B6 till he is 2 years old anyway, as it one of his key supplements, B6 is required for so many parts of the detoxification process, I want him to have all the help he can get in that area.

Another thing is that I have a new wholistic paediatrician for Kai and we are booked in for next week. I am pretty sure he will suggest to do the IGG blood test and I am pretty sure we will spend the money to do it.

I had mine last thurs and then a huge allergic saga from fri.

What happened love?

[koe2moe]

Hehe u read mine now and I just caught up here.  Try asking the chiro also.  She must know kinesiology to e able to help you!  I hope you get to the roots of the problem soon! 

[Grants]

Eloise I will post my other thread about M’s sleep here as I don’t want to confuse the discussion on this one. I posted his progress about the Melatonin treatment today on the last page here
http://babywhispererforums.com/index.php?topic=211545.225

In short- he is sleeping better , *touch wood*   

Eloyse

Have you had any other appointments yet?  I would think that if someone has eczema, that foods should be looked at very closely as you are.

As for the eczema he had an appointment last Friday and we tested loads of things Ie: food colourings, milk protein, acid lactic and many other things. He was weak on the food colouring blue but it was just a booster not a full treatment. He was found to be weak on ‘cinnamic acic’ which occurs in most foods that he likes and it’s linked to eczema and Psoriasis. So she treated him on that last Friday.  We still need to test humidity, histamines and other things but we will do it as we go along as he gets very impatient if we test too many things in one go.

[EloysH]

**touch wood*** then!!

We had a horrific night last night.  I decided to try avocado on him again, as i have suspected that he can't toelrate it and it gives him a rash, it is a very high salicylate and he currently eats moderate to highs. Anyway he had some for breakfast, and by afternoon had a horrible rash around his cheeks. Then last ngiht he woke 4 times, each time cuddled back to sleep his tummy seems very hard and cramping and he had a bit of reflux    So I am quite sure it was the avocado, nothing else was new in the diet for about a week now.    I just wanted a confirmation for my mind, that really he can't tolerate very highs - and we got it. 

Anyway,  from a NAET perspective he has never ben cleared for avocado but has been cleared for salicyaltes about 3 times. So I am wondering if one needs to do many foods on an individual basis,  If so, his treatment would be far form over as the practicioner seems to think!     He still reacts strongly to dairy, what could be going on there - do you think it might be just a combinaion that needs to be done.....   ghe has had a few dariy combination done already plus all the individula parts of milk done individually like lactose, caesin, milk mix, goat milk etc.  I think I will try to follow this up witrh the wholistic chiro who also knows NAET.

I had the chiro appt yesterday and kineasiology confirmed that he still needs to be on b6. Well we already know that. She also did some NET and sorted out his SA - we went away for the weekend and has been clinging since.  I have to say he has been happy to fall alseep on his own since.


just a question on the self test.   How can one self test for a surrogate - eg. Kai?

[koe2moe]

Eloise, I am so sorry that he had such a strong reaction still.  As you have read my thread, I talked to my practitioner, she strongly recommends me to start treating the food I eat.  It was over the phone so she didn't explain in details as to why it's necessary.  The book does say for people who are very allergic and sensitive, they will need to treat the food they eat in a day over a period to get them all treated.

I started doing it last night and I woke up without back pain.  I had this weird back pain all the time and in particular the last two weeks except one day.  So I know this isn't a back pain from movement, it's from food. 

I am interested to know how you can test and treat as a surrogate, too.  This will be a question for your NAET or chiro.  I suspect DS has some minor form of allergies, his nose bleeds terribly when it's windy. 

I will  have to go... 

[Grants]

Hi Eloise, I will be quick as I'm on my phone. I think there is loads of combinations that can still be tested TBH. I'm still finding out new things with my DS. For example this week we found out that dry sand makes his eczema much worse but he is Ok with wet sand? Nursery were the ones who pointed it out to me as his arms looked awful on Tuesday when he played with dry sand but looked fine yesterday when he played with wet sand.

As for the surrogate question I think you will have to ask your DH to push your arm down while you hold the allergen against your DS. I can't see any other way ? I will ask my practitioner about it tomorrow and will let you know. HTH x

[Grants]

Koe- I'm glad to hear that the back pain subsided !

[Grants]

Hi ladies, I have loads to update but just don't have the time to type it all. House is a mess because of the DIY and we have to have it cleaned by this afternoon as my mother is arriving for a 2 week visit.

Anyway, I just want to let Eloise know that my practitioner said the same thing about self- test as surrogate. So you need 2 people. You hold DS and DH do the testing or vice versa. HTH 

[EloysH]

Just got back from wholistic paed, who uses the IgG test as a diagnostic tool.  He has suggested that we do the test, he said that it can yield both false positives and false negatives, but over all it can give more information than not to identify food intolerances.  He also said that Kais exposures to casein and wheat have probably been enough to valid for the test. He said you need to be very experienced in interpreting the results its more about the patterns that come up not just singling out offending foods.

 I am thinking to go for it, as even though we have a handle on his major problem areas, I still don't know the full extent of his additive preservative problems and also the full extent of the gluten issue  Also I tend to doubt myself at times so I am for tests really  

Another thing,  we are also getting scratch tests for environmental allergies for him as well as a stool ananysis for good/bad bactieria balance.  He saiod he is almost hoping that he has low e.coli, then we can do something about that, and it would probably help his reflux.  He thinks Kai needs to stay away from caesin and gluten until at least 2 years old and not try another meds wean until then!

[Grants]

He sounds like a good doctor. If you don't have to expose Kai to anything else a
I would say just go for it! Like you said it's better to be sure then guessing his intolerances all the time. When are you doing the test?

[koe2moe]

Sounds like he knows what he's doing.  I just reread a bit of the NAET handbook.  There is a section about patients who have anaphylaxis.  As it's high risk to be exposed to the allergen, dr Devi recommends to do blood work for Tryptase, IgG, IgM and  IgE.  I just wonder if it's worth bringing up about testing the other things to get a very clear picture.
I am not saying that Kai has such extreme reaction but I mean that the other tests also give information about sensitivities and intolerances. 

[Mom to M&M]

He does sound like a good doctor! I wouldn't worry about having to expose him to more foods for the test. My DS came up quite high for almonds and moderately for peanuts (in addition to his high dairy reaction), and he'd had extremely little of almonds or peanuts his whole life and none near the time of the test.

Interesting that he said he can do something for low good e-coli. How would he treat that? My DS came up very low in good e-coli, as well as very low in lactobacillus and high in some icky bacteria (but not in anything dangerous/pathological). He's been on Culturelle since for the lactobacillus but not anything for the e-coli?

[EloysH]

thanks for the info and feedback gals! So just to recap, do you think the igG test acutally validated your knowledge that you already had?    That's pretty cool that he sounds like a good Dr to you guys, as I said before there are only a couple in this city that are both paeds and specialising in food intolerance and matters of gut health so he was a good find I think

 Dh is not so sure he wants to proceed with the  igG test given the cost and the lack of consistency with results.  I told him I would chat to anyone who has had the tests done to see if the results were valid for them.  I also have a friend waiting results for her little boy who has similar sensitivities as Kai, and she is seeing the same Dr.  Will know how they went in a few weeks time.  It is just so much money to spend, but I have already committed the $$$ in my mind 

as for the e.coli, I didn't catch the treatment for it, he might have said a supplement he definantly said that it would take a few months to balance out and "possibly" link back to the alleviating reflux and food sensitivites. Sorry, I will ask again but that's not for 6 weeks  !! Maybe your naturopath might know of a treatment for low e.coli??