Support Thread for 2-1 Nap Transition cont'd pt 4

[scucci1979]

Good luck Cyndie.

Well after two days of beautiful naps, Alyssa woke up at the 40min mark for todays nap. She was sitting in her crib crying. I can see her lower tooth about to cut, but then again, it can move down again.    I did the same A time as i did the other two days-5hrs and 20min. I probably should of put her down earlier today as I am not sure what her official wu time was. She began to stir at 6:30am, but cried out at 6:40am and nap was at 12pm. 

this nap business is tough work. I was talking to my mom today and she said she never followed specific nap times for myself or my brothers. She just followed our cues and if we slept, we slept.  Here I am stressing every moment of the day.

[lulunut]

Great news Clairebear!

I hope your day went well Newmama12.

We had 6:15wake today!!!!  Yay!  However he was up at 11pm, I managed to settle him and he screamed at 3am and went right back to sleep.  I didn't even go in.  Teeth!!!

[Mackjack]

Hi Lulunut,
Seems that the problem was that she's not showing sleepy signs anymore. So what I'm doing is, if she's not looking tired by noon (having woken at about 6.15/6.30am) I'm taking her into her room and holding her til she gets drowsy (which can take around 10mins). She's then going into her cot drowsy and, for the past few days, has gone back to doing a normal good nap of 2.5hours and waking happy.

I'm thinking they get to an age where everything is just too exciting to sleep and they don't show tired signs!!

[clairebear79]

I'm thinking they get to an age where everything is just too exciting to sleep and they don't show tired signs!!

Agreed - the only clue we really get with DS is the bags under his eyes.  No yawns, eye rubbing, nothing!

Ladies we are still doing 2 naps & O seems so much happier than on his 1 nap days.  I daresay though that he is getting close to catching up on his OT now as he's been resisting going down for his PM nap after 3hrs A (after short 45min AM nap) & so I either have to go back to pushing out the AM nap but more slowly this time or I have to keep the AM nap at the same time but cut it back further (slowly) so it brings the PM nap a little earlier in the day as it is running  bit too late.

Be back in a few days ladies - am busy getting ready for O's birtrhday party on Saturday.

Sabs - happy birthday Alyssa!!!!!  Hope you/she had a nice day.

[lulunut]

Have a great Birthday party Clairbear.  It can take a while to sort out the 2-1.  It took us about 16 mts before he was consistently on 1 nap.

Yep I agree, no sleep signs.  Granny's aren't as tough as Mom's when it comes to naps.  When we are at home I hold him and rock him for a bit.  Once he is out, he is so out!!!

[scucci1979]

thanks for the birthday wishes.
A big happy birthday to your beautiful boy Claire.

So ladies, we have to do two naps today. I guess this was an Ut nap she had today. Woke up at 6:40am, put her down for her nap at 12pm and woke up 1:10pm.  I wasn't able to extend today. Strange, b/c I was doing the same A for the last week. 
Should I try another 10min from wu time?

We also have no sleep signs here.

[newmama12]

Happy Birthday to Alyssa and Oliver!!!

We're having a rough day. J's been crabby all day long. He took a 30 minute this morning. Woke on his own. Then we had an appt to go to mid morning, so we got home late from that. So, his PM nap, started late (about 12:50) and he barely slept 45 minutes before waking up. He's been up there fussing and rolling around for the past 20 minutes. Grrr! I guess I'll give him a few more minutes before throwin' in the towel and getting him up. Super early, like 6pm BT tonight, I'm thinking. Booo!

[toffer]

Happy Birthday Alyssa & Oliver!

[newmama12]

Mystery of the lack of sleep is solved! Poor little man has a yucky cold. Go figure too - he was suppose to get his 1 year pics today. Boo! So bummed! I've had them scheduled for 7 months. Argh!

[scucci1979]

poor thing. I hope he feels better soon.  


we are teething here. One tooth cut and I think another one is going to come. That means the 1yr old molars are next.  

ladies, I have had to extend her nap more then I can think of. I think maybe there were a few times when she gave me a 2.5hour on her own. I really hope that she will learn to sleep for 2hours on her own. It has to be a routine thing. 

[lulunut]

Ooo! I hate molars!!!

[aidenmc]

Hi ladies. I've been off here for a while while we were away on holiday. I have to say that although I find this place to be a lifeline, it was kind of nice just going by his cues and previous sleep. We usually did 2 naps and I found we kind of had a pattern. The day we left he only took a 30 minute am nap. The next day he was pretty tired so took 2 decent length naps. i wasn't cutting the am nap too short as he was fairly easily taking the 2nd one with both adding to about 2 hrs or so. Gradually he took longer to get down in the pm (as he got better rested) and I had to cut that am nap. Things kind of went that way for the last 3 weeks or so.

Because I am going back to work in September he will be in daycare 4 days a week and we finally had to jump into hard core sleep training. DH is doing it all and started yesterday. So far so good, but today we only did 1 nap.

Our routine was
wu 5:50
Nap 12:15-1:45
Bt asleep by 6:45

I'm really not sure if he can sustain this but he skipped his pm nap the previous day and it makes it way easier to get him down independently (17 minutes last night, 12 for today's nap, 15 for BT tonight). Anyway, I guess we have to weigh the pros and cons of OT versus him being too UT to fall asleep and having lots of stamina to cry at sleep time. Right now we are going for the 1 nap and will see how we go.

[clairebear79]

Cyndie - hope J is on the mend now?

Sabs - hope Alyssa's teeth cut soon.  Don't think about the molars!!!  Actually I must say O's molars cutting hasn't been nearly as bad as when his 4 top incisors cut.  So there is hope!  How did you go with cutting back Alyssa's AM A time to see if it was OT that was disturbing her nap?  She has to be tired & not UT or surely she wouldn't go back to sleep with AP   Or do you think there is a prop issue going on?

Becky - sounds like a bit of time out was what you needed to see you right.  good luck with the sleep training!

Ladies it was O's 1st birthday today - we had a party & it was a lovely day.  He got a bit overstimulated though & didn't settle at all well for his PM nap.  Our last few days have gone:
Thu:
Wake: 6am
Nap: 12.05 - 12.30  (in pushchair on way home from outing to health visitor clinic & playgroup)
Nap:  2.00 - 3.30    (he was shattered due to no AM nap & doing an OT nap in the pushchair)
BT:    7.00

Fri:
Wake: 5.50am
Nap:   9.30 - 10.15
Nap:   1.35 - 3.00    (woke 35mins into nap crying but resettled.  assuming OT as took a fair while to settle to sleep)
BT:    7.00

Today:
Wake: 6.45am (yay!!)
Nap:  10.05 - 10.50
Nap:   2.30 - 4.00
BT:     7.00

We are still keeping with 2 naps for now.  Our best day this week seems to be when he did his naps at 9.30 & 1.30 so I'm half tempted to try that again tomorrow.  However I am finding that if we get a later WU & he's not quite ready to go down at or before 10am, then its a real struggle to fit in a 1.5hr PM nap and enough A time before BT (ideally 4hrs).  Is this the point at which I need to cut the AM nap further   Or should keeping the naps consistent at say 9.30 & 1.30 hopefully do the trick    

[scucci1979]

Claire, I would stick to what you are doing for a while if it is working.

Becky, I think that is a great day for a one nap day.

I haven't cut her time too much. So I am not sure if it truly OT here. For some moms 1hr 10-20min naps mean OT and for others UT. For me I just don't know. She normally wakes around 6:30am, sometimes she goes quiet and am not sure if she goes back to sleep, so I have been counting her A time from 6:30am.  This morning she woke up at 6:30am, went silent until 6:45am, so not sure if she fell back asleep. Was very cranky in the am, so I put her down at 11:50am and she woke up at 1pm. Settled her and woke again at 1:30pm. Tried to settle again until 2pm but she was in and out of sleep. I guess she wasn't that tired??? I don't know if I should fit in a CN. 
One tooth did cut and I am sure another one is going to cut soon.
I am always extending her nap. I can never figure out what her A time is. Do I increase it or decrease it?

[aidenmc]

Sabrina, I'm not sure about those 1hr20 naps either. We have had them off and on both on 1 and 2 nap days. For some reason sicne we've been on 1 nap this time, he's managed 1hr30 or more. This is third day with a fairly set nap at 12:15. He had woken early (5:30). His night wasn't great because he has another rotten cold (but luckily no bad crying). Anyway I think that was behind the early morning. But even with that we held him off. I heard him at the 1hr25 mark but he ended up sleeping about 1hr50. We are also on a set BT at about 6:30. I know i am jinxing myself but he is going down quite well, falling asleep quickly and I am hopeful we have settled on this new routine.